On 8/12/2022 12:56 PM, Jason Resch wrote:


On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 3:29 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:



    On 8/12/2022 12:13 PM, Jason Resch wrote:


    On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 2:18 PM Brent Meeker
    <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:



        On 8/12/2022 10:56 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
        Below is what I wrote:

            The way I like to think about it is this: If one is
            willing to believe that truth values for mathematical
            relations like “2 + 2 = 4” can exist and be true
            independently of the universe or someone writing it
            down, or a mathematician thinking about it, that is all
            you need.


        But it's truth value does depend on someone assigning the
        value "t" to some axioms and all mathematical truth values
        are nothing but "t" arbitrarily assigned to some axioms plus
        some rules of inference that preserve "t".  "t" has little to
        do with what it true in the world.


    The physical world chugs along with anyone having to assign to
    assign values, or apply rules of inference.

    Why can't the same be true for other platonic objects?

    Because "Platonic" means "exists only in imagination".


Perhaps conventionally.

But perhaps physical existence is platonic existence (i.e. all self-consistent structures exist, all rule based formal systems, etc.).

Given a sufficiently broad definition of "exists".   Just like 2+2=5 for sufficiently large values of 2.


This would account for fine-tuning, and plausibly yield an answer to "why quantum mechanics?"

One can "account" for anything in words.

Brent

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