Am Do, 18. Aug 2022, um 13:38, schrieb John Clark: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 6:46 AM Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *> Of course they could have evolved some more sophisticated strategies, * > > Yes but the other agents could've evolved more sophisticated strategies too, > and the behavior of the other agents must be considered because they are a > very important part of the environment, if not the most important part.
I completely agree, and to be clear the simulation that I created at that time was precisely aimed at exploring what you described. I was attempting to simulate speciation, and the agents could indeed develop diverse and independent strategies. > >> *> but since the vision range was a genetic parameter, it was simply easier >> for evolution to provide global coordination by limiting the vision range, >> and then it got stuck at this local optimum. * > > Your agents could've gotten stuck in an ESS, a Evolutionarily Stable > Strategy. Once the majority of a population are using a ESS a mutant who > follows a different strategy will soon die out even though if everybody > followed that strategy everybody would be better off. It is one of the many > flaws in Darwinian Evolution and why it took over 3 billion years for it to > invent brains. Just a century ago humans had no idea how to make a brain but > today we're very close. Agreed. > >> *> I still think about this to this day, and wonder if such a phenomenon has >> biological plausibility.* > > It certainly does! Richard Dawkins talks about this extensively in his > wonderful books "The Selfish Gene" and "The Extended Phenotype", two of the > best books I've ever read and I read a lot. I have read "The Selfish Gene" a long time ago and it was also quite influential for me. I will take a look at "The Extended Phenotype". Speaking of biology books, this one is not about evolutionary theory but it is one of the most beautiful scientific books that I own, and in case you don't know about it, I suspect you might like it: "The Machinery of Life" by David S. Goodsell Telmo > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > > sse > > > >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0UNbzyVW5DhPQ1k5hK%3DPBigxhZgjg39_gN8NpBL1Nq4Q%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0UNbzyVW5DhPQ1k5hK%3DPBigxhZgjg39_gN8NpBL1Nq4Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/96bfc79c-ba69-4b58-9462-55392846dedd%40www.fastmail.com.

