On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 04:11:04PM -0400, John Clark wrote: > On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 2:56 PM Tomasz Rola <rto...@ceti.pl> wrote: > > > > *> crimes are not being done to satiate religious feelings (except, > > perhaps, satanism) - "normal" human beingsdo crimes to satiate their basic > > instincts* > > > What evidence do you have that the above statement is true? I don't think > you have any,
The evidence is anecdotical. From the news, from critical articles about violent events, from memories of people who described their experiences in books, from disputes by historians, from documentaries, from people who had access to the archives where I would not be let in. The material gives some basic facts, a lot of them not quite accurate. It takes time to run one version against other version. Finally some opinion emerges. Always subject to change if new material gives hints that opinion is not good. > but it's very easy to find evidence that Osama bin Laden did > what he did for religious reasons, all you need to do is look at just about > anything he ever said or wrote in his life. Even George W. Bush said he > ordered the invasion of Iraq because an invisible man in the sky told him > to. I can't think of a reason I should disregard all that and not take what The people you mentioned are the leaders (religious, political). They are not normal, not average. I suppose at their level of existence, insulated from daily chores of ours, they slowly come to believing their own story. They believe that - even if they do something bad, felony - it is really for some great cause. They believe they are too great to be like a petty criminal, some small time thief, and they aspire for more greatness. So they say, "we need to bring Qatars back into the Church". They (probably) no longer think what normal human will make of it. And the normal human, deeply inside, will think "yay, there is quite huge possibility we will kill Qatars and, well, someone will have to take care of abandoned property". Leaders should really be wiser than that, but it is easier said than done. I have read some biograms and they fall down quite easily. Or maybe they just pretend to be stupid (i.e. too high to care for details), and deeply inside they too, are just normal. Or perhaps they know their subordinates are just normal humans, but, well, they only have those at their command, so to achieve more greatness they need to mobilise normals into acting, and this can only be done by titilating their instincts. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/20220822020447.GB23611%40tau1.ceti.pl.
