Yeah serious problems with religion. But the ideology of the progressives, who in the US, are stalinists funded by billion$ in a trade of money for power, is nothing virtuous either. Anyway. its unwise to expect too much from people. Religious, atheist's, anyone.
-----Original Message----- From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.net> To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2022 6:02 pm Subject: Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2] Am So, 21. Aug 2022, um 20:55, schrieb Tomasz Rola: > On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 04:00:41AM -0700, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > [...] >> Sure, there were religious leaders who opposed Nazism, such as the Lutheran >> theologian who wrote "First they came for ... ." I cannot remember his name >> off hand. > > Martin Niemöller: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Niem%C3%B6ller > >> There were others, but look at the preponderance. Consider in the >> United States the role of fundamentalists and evangelicals. They are >> almost lockstep with Don-the-Con t'Rump, who is America's "big >> pela-man" and cult leader, just as were Mussolini and Hitler. > > Religion in the USA is quite peculiar phenomenon. I have not read > about it too much, however. But yes, the way some of them guys go, is > worth deeper look. > >> Religion is largely about do not ask questions, obey your leaders >> and pay what you owe your religious leaders (tithes etc) and >> masters. It is a perfect conditioning system for a compliant >> population under fascism. > > The problem you describe is there, but I do not think it is pertinent > to religion or caused by it. > > You want to blame religion for the crimes done in its name? Ok, some > blame belongs to it. But crimes are not being done to satiate > religious feelings (except, perhaps, satanism) Satanism? Really? Satanism is christianity. YOU invented satanism. Satanism is the fucking pure unadulterated narcissistic projection of christian crimes. Fucking children? Priests are the ones doing it by the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS. Just in Europe, by the way, no USA needed for this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases_in_Europe And the pope and the cardinals are all still protecting them and conspiring to hide evidence. How dare you? Satanism? Like horrible tortures in the name of some sick god? Yeah that is also christianity. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=inquisition+torture&t=newext&atb=v274-1&iax=images&ia=images Or do you mean the "satanic panic", some disgusting confabulations trying to blame goth kids and D&D nerds for things for which there was zero evidence, while the true criminals are protected by the small town sheriff and their shitty little churches? Destroying lives, spending dozens of millions of dollars of taxpayer money on frivolous lawsuits: https://moglen.law.columbia.edu/twiki/bin/view/LawContempSoc/ZellyRosaFirstEssay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic All of this amplified by Oprah Winfrey and other mainstream media grifters for profit: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SatanicPanic https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-10-27-ca-449-story.html Kids spending decades in death row, being traumatized forever for the crime of dressing in black and liking metal in some shithole christian town? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three And then being denied basic justice to this very day? https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/local/damien-echols-one-west-memphis-three-heads-court-today/NPSNZ3JTONFFVPKFV4WA5BSYEY/ Or the sick vengeful things christians do to young women who dared to protest you, in this very century in countries where there is no recourse to the law? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/23/freed-pussy-riot-amnesty-prison-putin-humiliation That is true satanism. I still remember the psychological abuse that I was subject to in my 6 years of forced Sunday school. It is not much compared to the things I mention above, but I remember that I was less than ten years old and I couldn't sleep at night because christian sickos put the ideas of heaven and hell (both terrifying) in my mind, trying to make me feel eternally guilty for being a perfectly normal and healthy human being. I am still grateful to my father for eventually telling me that it was all bullshit. All of these things that many religious people do, that is what hell is. Sickos without a shred of empathy, intelligence, decency or self-reflection. Cowards. Get off your knees. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2paSwpzOvg&t=1984s Telmo > - "normal" human beings > do crimes to satiate their basic instincts. They just use religions as > good excuse. The robbed gold and other material goods, did they give > it away to their churches? Some of it, sure. The rest was just quickly > shuffled to their own pockets. > > Ditto with atheists doing crimes for the advancement of humanity. > > -- > Regards, > Tomasz Rola > > -- > ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** > ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** > ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** > ** ** > ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com ** > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/20220821185557.GA23611%40tau1.ceti.pl. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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