True. Religion didn't do a damn thing really to improve the human condition, say in Europe. It did seem to as a practice stop formal human sacrifice, and eventually eliminate slavery and replaced it with serfdom, where farmers were tied to the land, and obliged to work the lord's lands, turn over a portion or crops to the master, and do repair work on the monor & churches. I'd say this was better than the Roman Latifundia which was all slavery and family could be sold, etc. This was called Feudal times and the serfs suffered when noble went against noble and the body count of the serfs went up. Not very Christian of them. In Islam, it was constant fighting and they struggle between Sunni and Shia goes on (on and on) to this day, upon who is the rightful heir to Muhammad? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-16047709 My thinking is that before the Crusades, Islam was a bit different, wherein the afterlife as the primary reward was emphasized even more than before, because if one is young and dies in battle against the Kuffar, the big compensation was/is sex. Because if one is going to die, one requires compensation. So what now? We are having technologies like 3D printing that promise to eliminate want, if we get good at it? We have the idea of producing goods from renewables, like algae and mushrooms and yes, hemp. Vertical farms, solar, whatever else we can cook up. What about ethical behavior? Moral, being tied to a supernatural theme, and ethical being tied to being fair. A bigger view of the universe is part of the deal and the more we advance, the more of the human world expands. Maybe we kill over land and power because earth is all we have? He is a stone that knocks down 2 existential problems, although it is very far off! This is very far away, but is within physics as it is understood. https://interestingengineering.com/science/scientists-claim-space-megastructures-could-resurrect-the-dead
Hey, it was in Popular Mechanics, it's got to be true! Beyond this is the notion of Dyson Spheres around red dwarf stars nearby, which according to astrophysicists will last some 2- 10 trillion years. Halfway to the Omega Point or Big Rip or..? For some reason I envision our descendents, flesh, mechanical, or quantum, as hunkering down among the red dwarfs on Dyson Spheres, relaxing and waiting out "End O' Days," enjoying things. -----Original Message----- From: Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2022 12:31 pm Subject: Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2] But it depended on religion and religious belief to function as it did. Brent On 8/22/2022 1:18 AM, Tomasz Rola wrote: > In case of Inquisition, I gave you the rule to determine if they were > doing their abuses for the faith or for themselves. Here is what > Jewish wikipedia says: > > start quote > > FINANCING THE INQUISITION > > [http://www.jewishwikipedia.info/financing.html > ] > > It was widely accepted that the Inquisition existed only to rob > people, as they openly affirmed (Kamen, The Spanish Inquisition, p > 150). Both rich and poor knew that it was the rich who were most > at risk. The fact that the Inquisition funded itself from the > property it confiscated meant that it burned people on > commission. Individual inquisitors also funded themselves, > acquiring great wealth during their careers. Some inquisitors were > known to have fabricated evidence in order to extort money from > their victims, but even when discovered they received no > punishment. Similarly their staff of helpers, called familiars, > were free to commit crimes without fear of punishment by the > secular courts. After 1518 this was formalised. Familiars enjoyed > immunity from prosecution similar to benefit of clergy or modern > diplomatic immunity. This provided another cause of popular > scandal, along with their exemption from taxation . > > end quote > > So, seems to me, the Holy Inquisition was more like private > enterprise, and great career for those who accused. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/da541840-fe86-5dd6-e49d-9e8a58e09d4b%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/545988465.790410.1661199474858%40mail.yahoo.com.
