On 10/20/2022 9:29 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Am Do, 20. Okt 2022, um 17:56, schrieb John Clark:
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:03 AM Telmo Menezes
<[email protected]> wrote:
/> I mean... I don't know what to tell you. You really think that
the most likely explanation for her hiring someone to install an
email server in her bathroom instead of using existing government
infrastructure is her "being sloppy"?/
Yes.
/> Really?/
Yes really.
> /Then why would she bother doing this?/
Because officialgovernment email servers are notoriously slow,
cumbersometo set up , run on ancient hardware and software intend to
Crash often, and are unintuitive to use. It's bizarre, I'm talking
about Trump's high treason and you're talking about Hillary'semail
serverthat didn't conform to regulations.
Well the emails that did not conform to regulations contained some
details from the BBC article that you neglected to address. I will
leave a few here.
"According to the latest leaked emails, Mrs Clinton told a Goldman
Sachs conference she would like to intervene secretly in Syria.
She made the remark in answer to a question from Lloyd Blankfein, the
bank's chief executive, in 2013 months after she left office as
secretary of state.
"My view was you intervene as covertly as is possible for Americans to
intervene," she told employees of the bank in South Carolina, which
had paid her about $225,000 to give a speech."
"In a 12-page memo
<http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-048f-da25-a55e-efaf30b60000>
written by Doug Band, a longtime aide to Bill Clinton, he describes
using his consulting firm to raise money for the Clinton Global
Initiative as well as direct personal income for the former president.
Mr Band rallied clients of his firm, Teneo, to contribute directly to
Mr Clinton for "in-kind services for the President and his family -
for personal travel, hospitality, vacation and the like" referring to
that fund as "Bill Clinton Inc".
Several companies directly paid the former president for his speeches
or advice, as well as making contributions to the Clinton Global
Initiative. Republicans have criticised this, saying it allowed
corporations to pay for access to the former president.
One client, Coca Cola, received a face-to-face meeting with the former
president at his home in 2009, after contributing millions to the
non-profit foundation."
"The Clinton campaign tried to reschedule the Illinois presidential
primary to a month later, so as to make it less likely that a moderate
Republican would get a boost following the Super Tuesday primaries.
"The Clintons won't forget what their friends have done for them,"
future Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook wrote in the November 2014
email to Mr Podesta."
I don't see anything illegal or even clearly unethical in that list. It
looks like innuendo from Fox News. Have the Clinton's siphoned off
money from their non-profit foundation for personal use? That would not
be terribly surprising, but nothing says they did. Getting people and
corporations to contribute to a foundation is commonplace and in
principle benign.
Brent
/> Sure, Trump is much worse than Clinton./
Then what the hell are we arguing about?
We are arguing about the fact that if you insist of giving people a
choice between a turd sandwich and an even bigger turd sandwich that
the establishment also does not like, you shouldn't be terribly
surprised if they pick the latter just to spite you.
Telmo
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