The Deen & he who belies it https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2022/12/the-deen-he-who-belies-it.html
> On 28-Dec-2022, at 8:46 PM, Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > [Philip Benjamin] > No laws no physics. laws, no chemistry, no biology, no logic, no > scince, no business, no government, no language—no nothing!! Yes, even > nothing has laws!!! Matter and energy are all governed by laws. Laws of > physics and chemistry govern the properties of matter. If Dark-Matter is > real, then it also MUST be governed by LAWS—immutable LAWS. Laws cannot > precede analytical intelligence. Intelligence, which is an integral part of > Personhood. Only a Person can be a Lawgiver. An amorphous glob of SOMETHING > is not Personhood. This is also he issue of aseity. What is more > rational—dead matter giving (trans-speciating) LIFE, or is it ETERNAL LIFE > producing dead matter and life forms? WAMP-the-Ingrate and other Marxist > pagans are groping in incognito territory, of outer darkness!! > Philip Benjamin > Non-Conformist > From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason Resch > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 11:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Physics? Ok Astronomers view 2 distant Water Worlds so following > the physics I ask.. > > On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 4:52 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > A well-covered essay you have there, Jason. > > > Thank you! > > This almost goes to the essays by a few physicists which asks, "Are there any > laws?" > I would say yes, or perhaps evolving laws in an evolving cosmos? But I am not > the astronomer or physicist. > > https://bgr.com/science/the-laws-of-physics-dont-actually-exist-according-to-this-physicist/ > > > > I am quite partial to some of the ideas that the laws, as we see them, have > much to do with the kind of observers we happen to be. I have collected > numerous quotes from physicists who have thought along these lines here: > > https://alwaysasking.com/why-does-anything-exist/#Why_Laws > and here: > https://alwaysasking.com/why-does-anything-exist/#Observation_as_Fundamental > > Here are a couple examples: > > "The top down approach we have described leads to a profoundly different view > of cosmology, and the relation between cause and effect. Top down cosmology > is a framework in which one essentially traces the histories backwards, from > a spacelike surface at the present time. The no boundary histories of the > universe thus depend on what is being observed, contrary to the usual idea > that the universe has a unique, observer independent history. In some sense > no boundary initial conditions represent a sum over all possible initial > states." > -- Stephen Hawking and Thomas Hertog in “Populating the landscape: A top-down > approach” (2006) > > "It is an attempt to explain the Goldilocks factor by appealing to cosmic > self-consistency: the bio-friendly universe explains life even as life > explains the bio-friendly universe. […] Cosmic bio-friendliness is therefore > the result of a sort of quantum post-selection effect extended to the very > laws of physics themselves." > -- Paul Davies in “The flexi-laws of physics” (2007) > > Jason > . > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SJ0PR14MB5264FBDD154E7F811B9D90FAA8F29%40SJ0PR14MB5264.namprd14.prod.outlook.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6335A82E-FBC1-46D1-BFAA-D71EEDF947CB%40gmail.com.
