I don't see us as polar opposites in this particular discussion, JC. Having said that when Adolf the Atheist got religion in his speech, he was zero diff than Joe Stalin the Atheist? It was a method in both cases to secure loyalty for the sacrifice for the cause. How even Stalin once benefited from religious freedom | Crux (cruxnow.com) True. The Churches were re-opened after Barbarossa, June 1941. Was any of this true atheism as you know it? It was the best both lads could do, considering both we raised as Choir boys in their upbringing. Can atheists be kind? Yes. Can the religious be kind? yes. Hirohito, yeah Shintoism. But they mostly saw the Japanese "race" as superior to all. Thus, Japanese Christians, Buddhists, and Shinto, and Atheists could join the divine cause. Today, the big murderers of with those attempting to get to Janah, less so, the Jews but we still do it, and less so, the Christians (as of now!) and so forth and so on. My point, if we both wish for a more peaceful human race, we need to give the people a physical reason to chill out. Do you have a couple of things in mind? I do.
-----Original Message----- From: John Clark <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 6:51 am Subject: Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 8:04 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > Religion was a crutch as Marx blabbed about being the Opiate of The People. > If one is in pain one wants a way out. Currently, you have no offer up > substitute either. So what's a serf to do? So you don't care if religion is true or not, you only want to know if it makes people happy or not. OK, I would say the answer is a big NO, at least with regard to Christianity. How can a religion make people happy that preaches that, unless you EXACTLY follow a long long list of ridiculous rules that are virtually impossible to obey, an all powerful omnipotent being that closely scrutinizes you every second of every day will torture you far more intensely than you could possibly imagine, not for a billion years, but for an INFINITE number of years. > Stalin and Mao and Adolf weren't Goddists and their death carnage seemed to > quickly say to Religion regarding deaths, "Hold my Beer!" You left out Japanese emperor Hirohito who not only believed in God, he claimed to be the son of God, and 30 million people died in the Pacific theater of war during World War II. And Stalin and Mao were atheists but the vast majority of their soldiers were not, and as for Adolph... On April 12 1922 Hitler said in a speech: "Today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. [...] My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." On October 27, 1928 Adolf Hitler in another speech said: "We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity. Our movement is Christian." In yet another speech that Hitler gave in Berlin on October 24, 1933 he said: "We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out." John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis yuv o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv306tcm8pg%3Dicu7HyNC%3D6ysHa0v6Y5qGfm8%2BMNU%3D8%2B%2BkA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1861369644.924134.1677524125208%40mail.yahoo.com.
