On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 2:43 PM <[email protected]> wrote: *> Was adolf an atheist? He claimd to be.* >
Not in his public statements he didn't as I pointed out. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> mxz > > nobody knows what was going on in Hitler's head when he gave those > speeches and nobody will ever know, all we do know is what he said. > > > *It was a method in both cases to secure loyalty for the sacrifice for > the cause.* > > > Yes and that's the important point. It doesn't matter what Hitler's > personal opinion about religion were, the important point is that religion > allows one man who claims to have God's telephone number (or these days > God's email address I guess) to control millions of people because they're > afraid of a God that claims to love them will torture them for an infinite > number of years if they don't obey every command regardless of how idiotic > they > are. > > *> Hirohito, yeah Shintoism. But they mostly saw the Japanese "race" as > superior to all.* > > > And white Christians, at least the right wing sort, tend to believe they > are superior to all. > > *> My point, if we both wish for a more peaceful human race, we need to > give the people a physical reason to chill out.* > > > The way to get people to chill out is NOT to threaten them with horrible > torture for an infinite number of years if they ever step one nanometer > out of line; and the holy rollers don't even make it clear if they're > talking about an Aleph-nought or an Aleph-one infinity of years. > > > > > So you don't care if religion is true or not, you only want to know if it > makes people happy or not. OK, I would say the answer is a big NO, at least > with regard to Christianity. How can a religion make people happy that > preaches that, unless you EXACTLY follow a long long list of ridiculous > rules that are virtually impossible to obey, an all powerful omnipotent > being that closely scrutinizes you every second of every day will torture > you far more intensely than you could possibly imagine, not for a billion > years, but for an *INFINITE* number of years. > > > *> Stalin and Mao and Adolf weren't Goddists and their death carnage > seemed to quickly say to Religion regarding deaths, "Hold my Beer!"* > > > You left out Japanese emperor Hirohito who not only believed in God, he > claimed to be the son of God, and 30 million people died in the Pacific > theater of war during World War II. And Stalin and Mao were atheists but > the vast majority of their soldiers were not, and as for Adolph... > > *On April 12 1922 Hitler said in a speech:* > > *"Today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the > Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for > the work of the Lord. [...] My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord > and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, > surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and > summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not > as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a > man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in > His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of > vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the > Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I > recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this > that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty > to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for > truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that > we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a > Christian I have also a duty to my own people."* > > *O**n October 27, 1928 Adolf Hitler in another speech said:* > > *"**We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of > Christianity. Our movement is Christian."* > > *In yet another speech that Hitler gave in Berlin on October 24, 1933 he > said:* > > *"**We were convinced that **the people need and require this faith. We > have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and > that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it > out."* > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1FFU5M3t7BGR%3DB9Gm%3DE_3iWMpwSw6qNmwySiqeo8TxBQ%40mail.gmail.com.
