On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 5:51 PM Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *There is yet another level, phenomenal consciousness, which has no > behavioural manifestations whatsoever, allowing for the theoretical > possibility of philosophical zombies.* Then it would be impossible, even in theory, to ever prove or disprove the > existence of philosophical zombies, therefore the concept is not > scientific. But if you insiste on taking the idea seriously anyway then > logically you'd also have to take seriously the idea that you are the only > conscious being in the universe. I don't think anybody wants to do that > except for philosophy professors, and even then only when they're teaching > first year philosophy students and want to show them that philosophy can be > provocative. > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> 7va > >>> >>> "You say "If we’re lucky, consciousness is a basic feature of >>> information processing and anything smart enough to outcompete us will be >>> at least as conscious as we are" and I agree with you about that because >>> there is evidence that it is true. I know for a fact that random mutation >>> and natural selection managed to produce consciousness at least once (me) >>> and probably many billions of times, but Evolution can't directly detect >>> consciousness any better than I can, except in myself, and it can't select >>> for something it can't see, but evolution can detect intelligent behavior. >>> I could not function if I really believed that solipsism was true, >>> therefore I must take it as an axiom, as a brute fact, that consciousness >>> is the way data feels when it is being processed intelligently. >>> >>> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv376psa_ZbVO-tWG2VSc7m1sQqBOgtj2uDET%2BzOyajEyw%40mail.gmail.com.
