On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 5:51 PM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> wrote:
> *There is yet another level, phenomenal consciousness, which has no > behavioural manifestations whatsoever, allowing for the theoretical > possibility of philosophical zombies.* Then it would be impossible, even in theory, to ever prove or disprove the > existence of philosophical zombies, therefore the concept is not > scientific. But if you insiste on taking the idea seriously anyway then > logically you'd also have to take seriously the idea that you are the only > conscious being in the universe. I don't think anybody wants to do that > except for philosophy professors, and even then only when they're teaching > first year philosophy students and want to show them that philosophy can be > provocative. > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> 7va > >>> >>> "You say "If we’re lucky, consciousness is a basic feature of >>> information processing and anything smart enough to outcompete us will be >>> at least as conscious as we are" and I agree with you about that because >>> there is evidence that it is true. I know for a fact that random mutation >>> and natural selection managed to produce consciousness at least once (me) >>> and probably many billions of times, but Evolution can't directly detect >>> consciousness any better than I can, except in myself, and it can't select >>> for something it can't see, but evolution can detect intelligent behavior. >>> I could not function if I really believed that solipsism was true, >>> therefore I must take it as an axiom, as a brute fact, that consciousness >>> is the way data feels when it is being processed intelligently. >>> >>> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv376psa_ZbVO-tWG2VSc7m1sQqBOgtj2uDET%2BzOyajEyw%40mail.gmail.com.
