The Death of The Soul 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-death-of-soul.html 


> On 24-Jan-2024, at 8:16 AM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote:
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> The greatest loss that a person can suffer is the permanent loss of their 
> soul in the Hereafter (Q39:15-20). Such people will consciously suffer in 
> Hell, neither living nor dying (Q35:36). 
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>>> On 24-Jan-2024, at 5:32 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Stathis Papaioannou
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>>> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 11:10, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:46 AM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 10:01, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 5:51 PM Stathis Papaioannou 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>>>> > There is yet another level, phenomenal consciousness, which has no 
>>>>>>> > behavioural manifestations whatsoever, allowing for the theoretical 
>>>>>>> > possibility of philosophical zombies.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Assuming that is true and assuming that you yourself are not a 
>>>>>> philosophical zombie, how do you suppose random mutation and natural 
>>>>>> selection manage to produce you?  
>>>>> 
>>>>> It couldn't, which supports the idea that philosophical zombies are 
>>>>> impossible, or equivalently that phenomenal consciousness reduces to the 
>>>>> behavioural manifestations of consciousness, such as awareness of self 
>>>>> and environment.
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>>>> In fasct, it supports the idea that philosophical zombies could not be 
>>>> produced by natural (Darwinian) selection. But it say nothing about the 
>>>> possibility that such beings could be produced artificially; eg. via AI.
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>>> That is strictly true, but it would entail that consciousness is some sort 
>>> of side-effect peculiar to organic chemistry (or whatever the special 
>>> ingredient is), and not a consequence of intelligent behaviour.
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