On 1/23/2024 4:10 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:46 AM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 10:01, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

        On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 5:51 PM Stathis Papaioannou
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            > /T//here is yet another level, phenomenal consciousness,
            which has no behavioural manifestations whatsoever,
            allowing for the theoretical possibility of philosophical
            zombies./


        Assuming that is true and assuming that you yourself are not a
        philosophical zombie, how do you suppose random mutation and
        natural selection manage to produce you?


    It couldn't, which supports the idea that philosophical zombies
    are impossible, or equivalently that phenomenal consciousness
    reduces to the behavioural manifestations of consciousness, such
    as awareness of self and environment.


In fasct, it supports the idea that philosophical zombies could not be produced by natural (Darwinian) selection. But it say nothing about the possibility that such beings could be produced artificially; eg. via AI.

Bruce

Right, that "consicousness" would be a recorder that we would include so we could review any misbehavior that arose, like the self-driving car that hit the bicyclist had a record of it.

Brent

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