On Thursday, October 10, 2024 at 11:47:08 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 11:35 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: *> **a deterministic interpretation of a probability theory must mean that the wf collapse can be modeled dynamically, and this is what Objective Collapse theories are attempting to construct.* *No. Schrodinger's Equation is 100% deterministic * *> Of course, but the measurement PROBLEM is collapse of the wf, and this is what Objective Collapse is trying to solve to make Copenhagen deterministic. * *NO! Objective Collapse theories are NOT deterministic, Schrodinger's equation is but they add a random element so the wave collapses at a RANDOM time. And an objective collapse fan would be insulted if you said he was a believer in Copenhagen. * *I really don't know much about Objective Collapse theories, so I shouldn't speculate what it might be about. But one thing is clear, and what Penrose asserts; that the measurement problem in QM is the collapse of the wf. AG * John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> OCT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/a0e6c9eb-d181-47a3-9a15-068fa2086ee2n%40googlegroups.com.
