On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 7:56 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Friday, November 29, 2024 at 9:57:08 PM UTC-7 Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 3:37 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Friday, November 29, 2024 at 6:02:49 PM UTC-7 Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
>
> Non-local does not mean that there are specifiable interactions between
> the remote observers. If there were such interactions (FTL , say), then the
> theory would involve only local interactions. FTL interactions are just as
> local as any other interactions. Non-local means that the system depends on
> both x_1 and x_2, when x_1 and x_2 are at different locations (say,
> spacelike separated).
>
> Bruce
>
>
> Isn't spacelike separated a necessary condition for non-local? You write
> as if it's one of possibly several necessary conditions. AG
>
>
> No. Spacelike separation is not necessary. You can have a non-local effect
> whenever something depends on both x_1 and x_2, when these refer to
> separate locations, without any local communication between the points.
> Given points A and B, if whatever happens at A cannot affect B, and vice
> versa, then the relation between A and B is non-local. The points need not
> be spacelike separated.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> Can you give an example of something depending on two separate locations
> where there is no communication between the points? AG
>

Alice and Bob measuring the spin projections of a pair of entangled
particles. The archetypical non-local effect.

Bruce

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