On 12/18/2024 2:33 PM, John Clark wrote:


On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 5:23 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:


        *Nothing personal and I agree nothing is perfect, however I
        think that Wikipedia is closer to being absolutely true in all
        things than you are, or that I am.*


    /> I think one should exercise a reasonable degree of scepticism
    when Wikipedia makes egregious errors, as in this case. The claim
    is that each measurement reveals a property that the particle
    already possessed. The article then goes on to say that no single
    trial can measure the quantity of interest, so they consider the
    average over many trials, or the expectation value. Unfortunately
    for the writer of the article, the quantum expectation value does
    not depend on the physical properties existing independently of
    being observed or measured. So the assumption of realism is
    completely spurious. Wikipedia is not a reliable source....../


*OK let's recap, Wikipedia is wrong, Claude is wrong, GPT is wrong, Gemini is wrong, BingAutopilot is wrong, and I am wrong. But you are right. Well... Maybe, but probably not.
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The difference is that Bruce has an explanation as to why he's right.  LLM's are just mining the internet for opinions.

Brent*
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