On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 10:44 AM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 6:26 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> *> The experiment is run over many trials on individual particle pairs, so
>> averages or expectation values are the quantities of relevance*
>
>
> *Experiment never produces "expected values" it just produces values.*
>

I don't think you even know what an "experiment" is!

Bruce

* And those values would be impossible to produce if particles had one and
> only one state before they were measured or if particles could not affect
> each other faster than light, unless superdeterminism is true. So either
> Locality or Reality or both must be false.  I went over this in
> considerable detail in a previous very long post.  *
>

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