Oh, right. About two weeks, poking, proding, and then reading the online help. I was using NTBackup before I originally went to BE 8.x. I overlapped both backups for about two weeks, until I felt comfortable to trust BackupExec. I also have the Veritas Exchange agent and Intelligent Disaster Recovery features installed. With IDR, BackupExec allows me to burn a config CD and restore the server from a nearly "Bare Metal" state. This saves a ton of time usually wasted on reinstalling the O/S, service packs, Backup Exec and other programs, just to get to the point where you can restore the server.
-----Original Message----- From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup software no, more, how long from when you had never used backup exec until you felt very comfortable with it? Eric Fretz wrote: >Get to the point where BackupExec only need tape changes? Only a few >days. We were a BackupExec 8.x shop before hand, but I chose to do a >complete remove and install when going to v9.1. I'm sure upgrading >would have been just as good, but I wanted to know EXACTLY what was >getting backed up, what accounts were being used, etc.... Building the >new backup jobs accomplished that. > >The VS160 drives seem to run for about three months before they start >going offline for no reason. I've tried using Veritas drivers, >microsoft drivers and even Quantum supplied OEM drivers. Nothing >changes. The only thing that temporarily fixed the problem is bouncing >the power on the tape drive. Since the tape drives are inside of >servers, resetting the drives can be a perilous adventure. Dell swears >there is nothing wrong with the Quantum VS160 drive. I have a stack of >RMA labels that argue otherwise. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 12:36 PM >To: Exchange Discussions >Subject: Re: Backup software > > >How long did it take you to get to that point? > >Eric Fretz wrote: > > > >>About the only time I spend working on my Veritas Backup Exec 9.1 >>boxes >>is when I forget to change tapes, or when the VS160 drives decide to >>die. I have replaced (4) VS160 drives in 6 months. Thank God for >>Dell's 4-hour parts support.... >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:23 AM >>To: Exchange Discussions >>Subject: Re: Backup software >> >> >>Yes, the logging is quite lame . . . but for a lean shop like mine the >>person-hours that someone would have to dedicate to being an 'expert' >>at CA or Veritas, etc. the gains far outweigh the shortcomings. >> >>Fyodorov, Andrey FTL wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>My only complaint about NTBackup is the logging. I think it only >>>keeps last 10 logs in the Documents and Settings subdirectory which >>>belongs to the account that NTBackup runs as. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>Presley, Steven >>>Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:48 AM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: Re: Backup software >>> >>> >>>I recently worked in an environment where we kept 3 fulls on disk at >>>all time using NTbackup like this (and used file backup software to >>>put the backup files to tape). Each full was kept in its own folder: >>>Good (1 day old), Bad (2 days old), Ugly (3 days old). We just >>>scripted it so that after NTbackup did its thing we rotate the >>>backups out and what was in Ugly goes to tape. >>> >>>If you can afford to keep your Exchange fulls on disk and rotate them >>>like this, it speeds up recovery time quite a bit (being on gigabit >>>ethernet helps as well). >>> >>> >>>On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:37:47 -0500, Fyodorov, Andrey FTL >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Oh, then that changes everything. >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>>Tim >>>>Vander Kooi >>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:24 AM >>>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>>Subject: RE: Backup software >>>> >>>>Actually, if the historical data needed for the restore is still on >>>>disk it significantly decreases your restore time, as no tape is >>>>needed. I backup to disk on our SAN here, saving to separate daily >>>>files and only overwriting those files weekly. The disk backups are >>>>still written to tape daily, but doing it this way decreases your >>>>restore times in MOST instances, and lengthens your backup window >>>>since you can have your mail store being backed up to disk at the >>>>same time as other data is written to tape. >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>>Fyodorov, Andrey FTL >>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:56 AM >>>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>>Subject: RE: Backup software >>>> >>>>The only thing is it doubles your restore time and effort. >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>>Chris H >>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 6:09 AM >>>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>>Subject: Re: Backup software >>>> >>>>for Exchange NTBackup! Works like a charm . . .we use that for all >>>>Exchange servers and backup to a file and then pluck it off of a >>>>drive with our "Enterprise" backup software to tape. >>>> >>>>Tony Nguyen wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I need some recommendations on Backup software. We are still >>>>>running >>>>>Arcserve 2000 for backup. I have been having some problem with the >>>>>backup and try to call for support but they wanted $95 for then just >>>>>to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>tell me to upgrade. I am thinking about going with Backup Exec. 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