RE: POP3 to New Exchange 2003 environment

Terry Ganus Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:45:07 -0700

Wow. Like I have never heard that before. I think I will show it to mychildren and prove to them that people do not ever grow up...or change, andto expect this type of behavior even into adulthood.


Thank you.

<BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E52px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'><fontstyle='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'><hr color=#A0C6E5size=1>From: "Derek Harris"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "ExchangeDiscussions" <[email protected]> To:"Exchange Discussions"<[email protected]> Subject: RE: POP3 to NewExchange 2003 environment Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:32:37-0600 Mr. Anus appears to know everything, and has written manydocuments on Exchange. We should feel fortunate that he graces us withhis observations of how it should be. -----OriginalMessage----- From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:00PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 to New Exchange 2003environment POP is not a mail routing protocol. It is a singleclient to single mailbox protocol. Perhaps you might want to read therelevant Internet RFC to better understand how it works and why it won'tdo what you want. The reason this works for MAPI is because theprotocol supports the redirection. That is, the client connects to theold server, and it notifies the client, through supported protocolelements, that the location has changed. Then the client updates itselfand contacts the correct server. Exchange is not designed, and hasnever been designed, to act as a proxy for other servers until the notionof a front-end server came along. This is what it is specificallysupposed to do. If you want that function, then buy the box. If you canlive without it, then it's your choice. Or quit using such a limitiedprotocol. POP is about as basic (stupid) as a protocol can be. Ofcourse, if you had read the RFC, you'd have known that. Whiningabout what Exchange "ought to do" won't get yourproblem resolved. Arguing with those telling you how it is won'tchange the architecture of the product. I think it's time for you tomove on and troll a different list now. Ed Crowley MCSE+InternetMVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs andBricked Backups!T -----Original Message----- From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry Ganus Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:53AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 to New Exchange 2003environment I would not have expected anything less from youEd. Alas, there is hope that you could ride a bus. Like Icould have a route statement or routing group handle it...but there doesnot appear to be any chauffers for such a simpletask. Terry <BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px;MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT:0px'><font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'><hrcolor=#A0C6E5 size=1> From: &quot;Ed Crowley[MVP]&quot; &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt; Reply-To:&quot;Exchange Discussions&quot;&lt;[email protected]&gt; To: &quot;ExchangeDiscussions&quot; &lt;[email protected]&gt; Subject:RE: POP3 to New Exchange 2003environment Date: Tue, 30 Aug 200509:54:07 -0700 My car should be able to drive me whereI want to go without me touching anything. Alas, itdoesn't. Ed Crowley MCSE+InternetMVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the worldfrom PSTs and BrickedBackups!T -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-12066712- 6315 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OnBehalf Of Terry Ganus Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 20056:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE:POP3 to New Exchange 2003 environment Why? Onceinside, the Exchange Orginization should be able to figureout who is who. It does with all other mailand access. &lt;BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT:5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'&gt;&lt;font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif' &gt; &lt;hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1&gt; From:&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Chris Scharff&amp;quot; &amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&amp;gt;&lt;/i& gt;& lt;br&gt;Reply-To: &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Exchange Discussions&amp;quot; &amp;lt;[email protected]&amp;gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;To:<br >&lt ;i&gt;&amp;quot;Exchange Discussions&amp;quot; &amp;lt;[email protected]&amp;gt;& lt;/ i&gt;&lt;br&gt;Subject: &lt;i&gt;RE: POP3 to New Exchange2003 environment&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;Date:&lt;i&gt;Tue, 30 Aug2005 08:49:23 -0500&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;You needa front-end serverto perform proxying.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Original Message-----&lt;br&gt;From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com &lt;br&gt;[mailto:bounce-12066563-142 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On BehalfOf&lt;br&gt;Terry Ganus&lt;br&gt;Posted At: Tuesday, August30, 2005 8:40 AM&lt;br&gt;Posted To:swynk&lt;br&gt;Conversation: POP3 to New Exchange2003 environment&lt;br&gt;Subject: POP3 to NewExchange 2003 environment&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; We recentlyupgraded to AD 2003 and added a new Exchange 2003server and&lt;br&gt;we are slowly moving each user (lessthan 300) from the old 2000&lt;br&gt;Exchange server.Everything works flawlessly with the exceptionof&lt;br&gt;users getting access to POP3 mail once they are onthe new Exchange 2003&lt;br&gt;server. The outsideworld sees our internal pop3 as mail.domain.comand&lt;br&gt;that is setup on 300 different locations that relyon pop3 access.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do havePOP3 enabled on both servers. SP1 is in place. Thisis under&lt;br&gt;one e-mail orginization and one domain,one forest. Every other&lt;br&gt;function of e-mailbetween groups in this orginization works great.All&lt;br&gt;POP3 and SMTP is being routed to the original 2000exchange serverand&lt;br&gt;then distributed&lt;br&gt;fromthere. When I try to access e-mail via pop3 with a useron the&lt;br&gt;new&lt;br&gt;server I get an errormessage that the user is unknown...I findthis&lt;br&gt;interesting because asone e-mail orginization, it should see everyuser&lt;br&gt;as long as POP3is enabled.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The goal is to moveall users to the new Exchange server and thenremove&lt;br&gt;the old exchange server from the environment.Until then, I need POP3&lt;br&gt;to come into a singlepoint and see both serversor correctly route&lt;br&gt;throughout thee-mail orginization.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Terry& lt;b r&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;_____________________________________ ____ __ ______________________&lt;br&gt;List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm&lt;br&gt;Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange&lt;br&gt;To subscri be: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/&lt;br&gt;To u nsub scribe sendablank email to&lt;br&gt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&lt;br&g t;E xchange Listadmin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]&lt;br&gt;To unsubscribevia postal mail, please contact usat:&lt;br&gt;Jupitermedia Corp.&lt;br&gt;Attn: DiscussionList Management&lt;br&gt;475Park Avenue South&lt;br&gt;New York, NY10016&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please include the emailaddress which you havebeen contacted with.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;____ ____ ___________________________________________ ______________&lt;br&gt;L ist< br>posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm&lt;br&gt;Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange&lt;br&gt;To subscri be: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/&lt;br&gt;To u nsub scribe senda blankemail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]&lt;br&gt;ExchangeList admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]&lt;br&gt;Tounsubscribe via postal mail, please contactus at:&lt;br&gt;Jupitermedia Corp.&lt;br&gt;Attn: DiscussionList Management&lt;br&gt;475Park Avenue South&lt;br&gt;New York, NY10016&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please include the emailaddress which you have beencontacted with.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; <br >___ ______________________________________________________________ List postingFAQ:http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface:http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe:http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribesend a blankemail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ExchangeList admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe viapostal mail, please contact us at: JupitermediaCorp. 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