No, he is looking to increase his empire. Let him hire another admin and
then use him for your own purposes when he's not working on AV. Within 6
months you'll have yourself a minion.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hansen, Eric [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:18 PM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:      RE: AV!  a full time job?
> 
> At this point its sad to say the LAZY super is here to stay and so are the
> independent departments.  So he is looking at the best way to deal with
> the
> workload.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> I agree.  The idea that you could have 15 computers on your network (in
> your
> domain?) without knowing about it is a clear indication that management
> ISN'T
> doing its job...
> 
> -- Drew
> ********************************
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> Pray that there is a god, my little flock, because only a god can stop the
> eventual entropic destruction of the universe. (Schlock Mercenary -
> http://www.schlockmercenary.com)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
> Blackstone
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:11 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> 
> So it really isn't a matter of too much work, but rather a matter of poor
> management.
> In any company, but in particular one your size, allowing departments to
> manage computers is a recipe for disaster. It probably seemed like a good
> idea at the time, but not any longer.
> There should be a central point of contact for all machines. Orders are
> placed through that group and delivered to them for configuration and
> delivery to the end users or departments. That way all hardware is fully
> tracked and managed.
> You should be using logon scripts as one method of pushing out AV installs
> and DAT updates. That way for someone to login, AV software has to be
> installed.
> 
> I would suggest rather than spend 50-60K a year for an AV tech, that you
> put
> that time / money into better management. Ill bet you if you went to upper
> management and said "OK, we need a new hardware procedure, OR we need to
> spend 60K a year for an AV guy, they would let you have your way"
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> 
> Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
> purchasing a Mcafee e500.
> 
> A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
> departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday we
> ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't know
> about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> What are you using for your AV solution?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> 
> At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
> does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
> appropriate.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> How big is your company?
> 
> Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?
> 
> It varies from org to org.
> 
> -- Drew
> ********************************
> Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
> Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors
> and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> 
> I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
> position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
> do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
> A/V vendor to notify you (& other support staffs) when there's new virus
> via
> pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer relationship
> with
> A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like Technical Account Manager,
> TAM.  Once you have those communcation method established, you have to
> have
> software that can distribute updates automatically and fast.
> 
> My two cents...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: AV! a full time job?
> 
> 
> 
> Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
> Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.
> 
> 
> Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
> neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
> 
> e-
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