I like blunts, too.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> 
> I use to think it was my lazy boss.  And I was told it was 
> him, but when
> crap hits the fan its clearly not him, it's broken down by 
> who maintains the
> product... by choice of the team members. 
> 
> If that sounds ugly or a bad way to run a team, your right.  
> But that is
> another story.  
> 
> I really liked what James Blunt said.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> Who has the ultimate responsibility for the overall 
> functionality of the
> network? If it's you, you're the boss  - change the passwords 
> and tell them
> to stick it!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:48 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> 
> Other departments who have the rights to do it.  We have 
> argued this to the
> Nth degree, trust me its beyond all hope.  If we change 
> passwords we get
> chewed out and told to change them back.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anderson, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> How are they joining machines w/o your knowledge? Time to change some
> passwords.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
> Posted To: Exchange
> Conversation: AV! a full time job?
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> 
> Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
> purchasing a Mcafee e500.
> 
> A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
> departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday
> we ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that 
> we didn't
> know about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> What are you using for your AV solution?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> 
> At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, 
> the guy that
> does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
> appropriate.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> How big is your company?
> 
> Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?
> 
> It varies from org to org.
> 
> -- Drew
> ********************************
> Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
> Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the
> survivors and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin 
> Luther King, Jr.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> 
> 
> I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
> position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person 
> since viruses
> do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
> A/V vendor to notify you (& other support staffs) when 
> there's new virus
> via pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer
> relationship with A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like
> Technical Account Manager, TAM.  Once you have those 
> communcation method
> established, you have to have software that can distribute updates
> automatically and fast.
> 
> My two cents...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: AV! a full time job?
> 
> 
> 
> Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would 
> you consider
> Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and 
> network/desktop.
> 
> 
> Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
> getting neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
> 
> e-
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