And the whole idea is that as a support shop, your job is to support. Has management told you to put limits? When the email or file system was presented to them, did you say that there were going to be limits.
Your job is to keep people from doing really stupid (not what you think is stupid, I mean really stupid) things that impact IT and then to respond to, or be proactive in creating solutions to business problems. You have presented no cases that justify any limits. You've actually presented some pretty good cases for not having limits. Your company is small, probably to get away from the large staffs and stay innovative. This means that you really shouldn't be stifling innovation, don't get in people's way, HELP them do their job. If you see something that they are doing and there is a better way, help them learn a better way. If they need to store 2 GB in the mail server, let them. If they are keeping a backup of their disk, then advise them that there are better ways, but more importantly, make those better ways available and very easy for them to use. -----Original Message----- From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, July 05, 2002 4:43 PM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: Unlimited Quotas Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas I agree as long as there is money to support it. But keep in mind that having a large IS means that there is that much more stuff for lawyers or the FDA (we do drug development) to go after. And if you are going to have an unlimited store it ahs to be managed. Those tools are not free. I man IT shop and unless I get an open ended budget I have to make some decisions. My request for journal/archive software is going unanswered. So all I can do is tell management that both myself and our legal counsel made suggestions. Then I just do my job. And I imagine some of this is due to the fact I come from having used a VAX account that had pretty strict limits (I still use it. Either you managed it or it would lock you out. I know times have changed. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 2:32 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas > > > > Why do you pretend to be arrogant enough to be able to > dictate the needs of others? You don't seem to have any > business drivers to justify your actions. And who is to say > that getting additional disk drives for the user email > storage isn't out of the question? > > And as to storage, it has nothing to do with processor and RAM. > > And most importantly, just because you don't restrict the > users storage, doesn't mean that you will run out of space. > That's absolutely hogwash, a justification of why many IT > shops get such a bad reputation. Your job is to SUPPORT your > users, not be a dictator. In the whole scheme of things, a > few thousand dollars for some disk space and maybe an upgrade > in Exchange editions is petty cash. > > > The BUSINESS driver should not be an IT limit. Exchange > really is able to support most business drivers with little > difficulty. In the limitation of storage, that should be > completely dictated by you organizations Document Retention > Policy, which should be dictated by the lawyers. And it > shouldn't even be an IT function to enforce, even if you can. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Posted At: Friday, July 05, 2002 9:18 AM > Posted To: Microsoft Exchange > Conversation: Unlimited Quotas > Subject: Unlimited Quotas > > > I am being asked to justify why I have set quotas for users > on our E2K server with 25 users. Things that come to mind > are that if we give users unlimited stores, we will have to > buy more disk space in time. Also we have a single processor > server with 512 ram. So I would make a WAG and say that we > will be looking at a second processor and more RAM. I am > already looking at more RAM since our server is paging quite > a bit. And as we implement archiving and journaling this will > impact disk space as well as the backup (time, number of > tapes). I also realize that allowing unlimited space leads > to users never managing their e-mail. > > So besides these reasons are there any other reasons that I > should be thinking about? 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