As a customer, I appreciate when I'm shown that I was wrong when planning to
spend 100% more than I have to. Makes me want to use that provider again.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:49 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> 
> 
> When a customer wants it AND wants to pay money for it... 
> customer is always right. :)
> 
> Customers hate when one proves them wrong.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> 
> 
> Perhaps it would be better if you educated that customer on better
> alternatives.
> Just as an aside, during Tony Redmond's session last week he 
> asked how many
> in the audience were using clusters and I swear, a third of 
> the people there
> raised their hands. I would have thought it a lot less. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:54 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> 
> 
> I prefer not to mess with Exchange clustering unless a 
> customer insists on
> having a dedicated Exchange cluster.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:35 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> 
> 
> And when you deploy an Exchange cluster, that's exactly what you get!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Andrey Fyodorov
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:15 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> 
> 
> No I am just preparing for the worst-case scenario.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:11 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> 
> 
> If you're basing your life around 4 identical boxes that all 
> experience
> hardware failures that close together, I suggest you switch hardware
> vendors. Fast.
> 
> Keep in mind, too, that A/A/A/P means you're running Datacenter.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:04 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> > 
> > 
> > 3 Storage Groups on each node, right?  :)
> > 
> > I like the idea of a/a/a/p, but that's a one trick pony. You
> > better hope that the other two nodes are not going to fail soon.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:59 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> > 
> > 
> > Which meant if you had 3 databases on each cluster, the other
> > active node
> > would fail as soon as it failed to mount one store too many.
> > 
> > That's why MS now pushes a/a/a/p clustering. a/a was an unmitigated 
> > disaster.
> > 
> > (:=
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Andrey Fyodorov
> > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:32 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> > 
> > 
> > No, according to the theory you can get more users on
> > Active/Active because
> > both cluster nodes are being used to do something useful. But 
> > if one fails,
> > the other node better be able to take on the load.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dennis Depp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 2:50 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> > 
> > 
> > Stay away from active/active.  Go Active/passive instead.  
> You can get
> 
> > more users on Active/Passive.
> > 
> > Denny
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Imran Iqbal
> > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> > 
> > 
> > We are currently an Exchange 5.5 site, as part of our move 
> to Exchange
> 
> > 2000 I am considering setting up Exchange on a 2 node Active Active 
> > cluster and would be interested in hearing anyone views or 
> real world 
> > experiences with similar setups.  Each server would have about 800 
> > active users and would probably be connected to a SAN for 
> the shared 
> > storage.
> > 
> > I have heard that there were memory issues with this setup 
> pre SP3.  I
> 
> > would like to know if there are any other problems and if 
> it is worth 
> > doing
> > 
> > Thanks in advance
> > 
> > 
> > Imran
> > 
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