Do you still have the old server on and all the services running?

Do you have Cloudmark configured to check ALL inboxes or have you got it
configured to only scan the primary mailbox?

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Outlook slow to communicate with 5.5 server - long


Apply SP4
Run Performance Optimizer.
Ensure that IM Messaging thingy is turned off in Tools/Options. This only
effects one user?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Smith, Ronni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 3:42 PM
Subject: Outlook slow to communicate with 5.5 server - long


> Trying to be thorough but then it gets long - sorry. I hope I have
included
> all the information needed. And not too much unnecessary info.
>
> I have an on-the-lan user (Outlook XP on Windows 2000 all current 
> hotfixes and service packs as of yesterday morning anyway, Exchange 
> 5.5 SP3+ some
> hotfixes) who is getting the "Requesting data from the Microsoft Exchange
> server" message and long delays opening or deleting a message etc.
> Originally over 3 minutes to delete a single message I got it down some
with
> the RPC binding order but not enough.  Everything, contacts, calendar,
items
> in public folders, items in his other folders created at the same 
> level as the inbox all behave perfectly normally (ie fast). It seems 
> to be just his inbox. None of the 4 articles (290003, 299485, 293650, 
> 328880) I got searching for "Outlook is retrieving data from the 
> Microsoft Exchange Server" or the zero articles from searching for 
> "Requesting data from the Microsoft Exchange Server" seemed to 
> apply[1].
>
> There are no errors in the error logs of either his machine or either 
> of
the
> Exchange servers (neither new nor old). The error message always 
> refers to the new server.
>
> It's not network related and although he was running Cloudmark 
> anti-spam
and
> auto-archiving, turning them off did not help[2]. I have already tried 
> the reg change to reorder the Exchange Provider RPC binding order and 
> that may have helped a bit but not enough. It is down to under 60 
> seconds but over about 20 to delete a message now. Still not good 
> enough. Using an Outlook 2000 client on a different box still shows an 
> abnormal delay although less of one than Outlook XP so I believe the 
> root cause to be unrelated to the client, freely conceding that I 
> could easily be wrong[3].
>
> When I added my account as a user on his mailbox and tried to open it 
> with my Outlook 2000 as an additional mailbox I was able to add the 
> mailboxes just fine but when I tried to open either one I got an error 
> message
"Unable
> to expand the folder." Which did not give me any articles when I 
> searched the MS KB site for it. Which doesn't seem right but I even 
> made sure I wasn't limiting it to Exchange only and still no joy. 
> There were no differences in permissions between his mailboxes that 
> wouldn't open and those of another user I tested whose mailbox I had 
> no trouble adding and opening. I do not know if this is a related 
> problem or a different one.
>
> His mailbox that is slow contains 26,000 items for a total usage of 
> 211,000K. His secondary mailbox (for the other internet domain) that 
> opens fine contains 21,500 items for a total usage of 325,000K. Mine 
> is 4xx,000K and has 115,000K items and I do not have problems so I 
> don't think that is it either. There is plenty of free space in the 
> store.
>
> I looked over the command line switches documented in article 296192 
> but I don't see anything there that looks likely to help. I looked 
> over the
fixes
> in SP4 for Exchange 5.5 and I didn't see anything there although, I 
> will apply that this weekend. I am at a loss for where to look next. 
> Other than to look at isinteg checks and possibly exmerging his box 
> out and in again. Which scares the bejeebers out of me. Since I have 
> completed all but deleting the old Exchange server from the site I 
> thought I should perhaps
do
> that first but if that were the root cause it should affect more than 
> just the one user should it not?
>
> Any help or pointers would be gratefully received.
>
> Ronni
>
> [1] He is on the lan not over VPN on DSL so 290003 is out. I am in the 
> process of moving to a new Exchange 5.5 server but his mailboxes and 
> all
the
> public folders are already on the new server and the server the 
> message claims is the problem is the new server so I think that lets 
> 299485 out. 293650 tells me how to remove the message but what I want 
> to do is remove the delay. 328880 refers to an Exchange 2000/2003 
> server which this obviously is not.
>
> [2]  He was running Cloudmark (anti-spam add-in) and had recently 
> started auto-archiving. I had him stop the auto-archiving for now and 
> stop the cloudmark from automatically checking his inbox. I think the 
> best improvement was the RPC binding order and the others made little
difference
> but he is impatient and would not try things one at a time. He had 
> been on
a
> gigabit switch and moved a few weeks ago back to a 10/100 switch but 
> checking the switch didn't show any issues and I had him switch back 
> and
it
> did not help.
>
> [3] I put Outlook 2000 on a new box and had him log in on it. There
opening
> his mailbox takes about 40 seconds and deleting the Welcome to Outlook
2000
> message took about 8 seconds. That seems like at least 7 seconds too 
> long
to
> me. Also, he has two mailboxes (one for a different internet domain 
> that
we
> also accept mail for here) that he accesses independently (different 
> icons on his desktop for the different profiles). If he opens his main 
> one for
the
> company domain (as in internet) he has the problem accessing his 
> inbox. He has the company mailbox opening as an added mailbox when he 
> uses the secondary profile. If he uses the secondary profile mailbox 
> he sees delays only when he is actually trying to access the inbox of 
> the company
mailbox.
>
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