You mean to say that in your opinion you are right.  

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I didn't bring the subject up. You did. And I am still right regardless of
how people wish to justify it in their own minds.
> Why should WE look it up, i.e., check out other professions?  YOU are 
> the one making the irrational assertions.  You have stated your 
> arguments many times, and you have repeatedly been shot down based 
> upon their superficiality.
> 
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:25 AM
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> Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
> 
> I did not say what you say I said.
> 
> What I said was that, in my opinion, accepting honorary titles from 
> vendors is a conflict of interest and something that should be avoided 
> by those who are, or; technically, consider themselves, professional 
> IT people. That is my opinion. And this is not just my opinion, check 
> out other professions and their views on accepting honorary titles. Go 
> educate yourself on the subject matter.
> 
> Now, the other thing that you are incorrect in is that I did not bring 
> this subject up. This subject came up years and years ago back around
> 1996/1997 during normal list discussions. It is not like I just 
> started blasting people out of the blue. However, it seems that every 
> time I post to this list somebody is still holding a grudge from 
> 1996/1997 and brings this subject up. Once it is brought up, I will state
my opinion and defend it.
> 
> Money is simply the physical manifestation of ego and thus there is no 
> difference between the two. I hold myself to my own professional code 
> of conduct. I have no idea if it is better or different or "longer" 
> than anyone else's. It is mine and that is all I know.
> 
> > No, You are wrong.
> > 
> > Explain to me how you can tell someone that they are unethical AND 
> > not expect it to be taken as an insult.  You feel justified in your 
> > position and that is fine.  When you come into a public forum and 
> > say that anyone who is an MVP is unethical, you cannot expect MVPs 
> > to take it any other way than an insult.  By making your opinions as 
> > a statement, you have committed catagorical slander on a group of 
> > people YOU
> DON'T EVEN KNOW.
> > 
> > If you had said that you disagree with vendor recognition, but that 
> > MVPs do a lot of good for the Microsoft community (this discussion 
> > list being a prime example), then you would be airing your opinion 
> > with out discrediting the good work that some MVPs do.  Can you 
> > really blame anyone for accepting recognition?  It is human nature 
> > to want and
> deserve laud and attention.
> > 
> > It is obvious that you measure yourself a much longer moral 
> > yardstick than the rest of us.  Perhaps you should start your own 
> > Exchange list for-the-morally-upright to keep these reactions from 
> > happening in the future.
> > 
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