<diatribe on> Ok $hitballs, enough of this! I get enough spam in a given day.
Greg, you are wrong as far as your peers are concerned, and insulting to boot. That's all there is to it. Deal with it. I've yet to hear anyone on the list chime in with 'yeah, MVP status is ethically/morally wrong', of course I could have missed that in the pi$$ing coming from you and the shift/delete it forced me to do. I've been a member of this list before (about 4-5 years ago, where's CTHULU, by the way?? Did the pagan gods suck his skull?) and it had a much better taste then, thanks in part to you. You weren't here then, were you? Your name does NOT ring any bells. OH!!, right, you were here then! You said so yourself. So why do I remember the others and not you. Must be because they were worth something and helped people. Hey, maybe they were Valuable?? As far as MVP goes? Hell, if I were a newbie and wanted advice, and Ed or Missy or Paul R. (or Martin or Andrey, hi guys, were you here 4 years ago?) answered a post, I would consider their advice. That's the importance of MVP status (not that they are all MVP's, I don't know or care - its about prolific posting, helping others, and having the respect of the community). MVP essentially means that you are respected in your given field of expertise. If Microsoft condones that and recognizes it, freakin' great! Its not that they necessarily know more than you or I (though I would bet LARGE in favor of the fact that they got you cold), but that they are HELPING others. Not pissing in the fu<king wind, as you've seemingly got a wont to do. So, shut the he|| up and let this thread die. Back to work. Sorry if I've missed mentioning any of you who've helped others and also have the respect of the community. Deckler seems to have forever lost that possibility by being an incredible burning hemorrhoid. (guess what folks, that's the correct spelling.) </diatribe off> Began ----Original Message----- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I didn't bring the subject up. You did. And I am still right regardless of how people wish to justify it in their own minds. > Why should WE look it up, i.e., check out other professions? YOU are > the one making the irrational assertions. You have stated your > arguments many times, and you have repeatedly been shot down based > upon their superficiality. > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:25 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > I did not say what you say I said. > > What I said was that, in my opinion, accepting honorary titles from > vendors is a conflict of interest and something that should be avoided > by those who are, or; technically, consider themselves, professional > IT people. That is my opinion. And this is not just my opinion, check > out other professions and their views on accepting honorary titles. Go > educate yourself on the subject matter. > > Now, the other thing that you are incorrect in is that I did not bring > this subject up. This subject came up years and years ago back around > 1996/1997 during normal list discussions. It is not like I just > started blasting people out of the blue. However, it seems that every > time I post to this list somebody is still holding a grudge from > 1996/1997 and brings this subject up. Once it is brought up, I will state my opinion and defend it. > > Money is simply the physical manifestation of ego and thus there is no > difference between the two. I hold myself to my own professional code > of conduct. I have no idea if it is better or different or "longer" > than anyone else's. It is mine and that is all I know. > > > No, You are wrong. > > > > Explain to me how you can tell someone that they are unethical AND > > not expect it to be taken as an insult. You feel justified in your > > position and that is fine. When you come into a public forum and > > say that anyone who is an MVP is unethical, you cannot expect MVPs > > to take it any other way than an insult. By making your opinions as > > a statement, you have committed catagorical slander on a group of > > people YOU > DON'T EVEN KNOW. > > > > If you had said that you disagree with vendor recognition, but that > > MVPs do a lot of good for the Microsoft community (this discussion > > list being a prime example), then you would be airing your opinion > > with out discrediting the good work that some MVPs do. Can you > > really blame anyone for accepting recognition? It is human nature > > to want and > deserve laud and attention. > > > > It is obvious that you measure yourself a much longer moral > > yardstick than the rest of us. Perhaps you should start your own > > Exchange list for-the-morally-upright to keep these reactions from > > happening in the future. > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode > =&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
