On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 18:44, David E. Fox wrote: > > > > (You wouldn't be talking about Rick Moen here would you *grin* ) > > How'd you guess? :) Yeah Rick and I've butted heads a few times in > SVLUG. He used to be really prolific, but I haven't heard from him > in a while. I mostly lurk in SVLUG anyway.
When it comes to Debian and SCSI I don't know of anyone more stubborn *grin*.. He's a great guy though.. As for lurking... the best part of the meeting is often the time at IHOP. If you go next month maybe I'll run into you. I'll be in the back on a laptop running 9.1 > > > 1. Space... pulling down roughly the equivalent of your install into > > /var might be a problem. > > I see that ans an issue as well. Since it's been said that apt-get > gets than installs then gets some more it's better for disk-starved > things. A full update to cooker could take lots of room (I'm doing one > now, in fact) and while you want to keep closely related packages in > cache for dependency issues, there are plenty of stand-alone packages > that have no other dependencies. Once they're installed and committed > there's little reason to keep them in cache - one should be able to > overwrite packages if for no other reason than to save space, or at > least to reuse it. In the cooker They have mentioned casually that they are looking for features people want/need in urpmi the next generation.. might be the time to start requesting. > > The other thing I've noticed is that uprmi sends a set of separate > ftp requests for each package it thinks you need, logging in and > retrieving one package at a time. I think it would be better to just > issue the set of gets for all the packages at once. One advantage to this is if a file is missing it gets everything but ... but you are right. This can be a heck of an overhead problem with large downloads. If you are looking at it as they designed it, getting 2 or 3 rpms it's not a problem.. but trying to upgrade even rc2 to current it's a heck of a bandwidth hit. > > Also if a site is hung, you have to back out of the update for that > site, and there's no way at least to me to have multiple sources for > each package -- you have to urpmi.removemedia and then urpmi.addmedia > for the alternate source. I dunno if that's true with apt-get. Dunno on apt-get either. But they have talked about the ability to add fallback media to urpmi and I agree it would be helpful. I know I tend to remove the cd's as media then add an online site that has the release rpms. When I'm on the move I don't always have disks handy. James
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