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October 22, 2003 10:56 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
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> > Since the worm uses it's own smtp engine or co-opts the Windows one
> > it may not matter whether she sent anything, and it would have been
> > possible for the worm to send copies of itself to any system that
> > it could find with it's own scanning facility. With her address I
> > do believe. Without any record in sent mail.
>
> Not a nice thought.
>
> She's on dial-up, so that at least is in our favour.
>
Well that will help a bit. Any (unsecured) Windows system that's connected to 
any network is (should be) a source of concern for anyone else on that 
network.

Although the best security for Windows that I've found is the installer for 
Mandrake Linux and the "Use Entire Disk" option. (-;
> > I certainly hope so Anne. I do know what !fun you're going through.
> > From personal experience. I also know what the next two weeks (at
> > the very least) are going to be like for me. The only good part of
> > it is that I usually end up with a few more members of the Mandrake
> > Family every time something such as this happens.
> >
> > So I suppose it's worth the work and aggravation.
> >
> > > As soon as she is back home and working I'll get her av
> > > registration details so that I can talk to Kaspersky about how we
> > > can ensure that such things are caught 'at the door'.  Although I
> > > can see how OE would be a priority for them, I think it's
> > > unlikely that other mail apps can't have that protection.
> >
> > I hope the manufacturer of her av application is more enlightened
> > than some of the MS "Partners."
>
> Hopefully.
>
> > Best of luck with keeping the system clean Anne. I think we'll all
> > need all of the luck we can get.
> >
> > <feel good>
> > Time to disconnect this system and deliver it. My son should be
> > pleased with 9.2 I think. If he doesn't he can work on his own
> > damned system. (-; </feel good>
>
> The good news is that she will be starting a new job in around 3
> months.  Soon the worst of the current pressure will be over for her,
> and I'm look at whether it's possible to give her Mandrake and
> win4lin to cope with her needs.  If she can keep the Internet part
> out of Windows it should help.
>
> Anne

Is she easy to manipulate? (-;

If so (or maybe especially if she isn't) you could try some of my (social 
engineering for a reason) regular arguments modified to suit the 
circumstances. Things such as; 

"So; do you actually enjoy having some faceless stranger that you'll never 
meet, and have no reason to trust, make decisions about your private 
information internet use and _life_, or do you trust *your mother?"*

The "father" version of that one worked on my kids anyway. As independent and 
anarchistic as any pair of teenagers I've ever met. That quality must have 
been inherited from their mother's side. <eg>

Charlie
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Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org
Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk
A kind of Batman of contemporary letters.
                -- Philip Larkin on Anthony Burgess
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