I'm not sure I'm in total agreement.

The computing community is not made up of only two types of users:
experts (many of whom use linux) and complete neophytes (who, for the
sake of argument, use Windows). There is, in fact, a wide spectrum of
folks - some of whom want an appliance, those who are interested in
making the machine work better, those who like to tinker, all the way to
the more hard-core 'hacker' (like many of us). So one size does not fit
all and there's certainly plenty of well-functioning linux desktop
systems that work well and are easy enough to deal with even for an
inexperienced user. A user may need help in figuring out
something/getting something new working but these lists (and info
resources on the web such as twiki) can fill that need.

A personal example..At home I have two machines that the family uses;
both are dual boot and can load Windows; one runs Mandrake 9.1, the
other Red Hat 9.0. My wife and children have had the choice of loading
Windows or Linux for the last year and a half. They run linux 100% of
the time. I believe my wife and older daughter truly don't
care...they're just trying to get things done and they know that I'll
keep the computers up-to-date and running. My younger daughter is a bit
more of a hacker and has grown to dislike Windows....she spends most of
her time designing things with the gimp, reconfiguring the desktop, etc.

Bottom line...in a typical family (albeit with a hobbyist hacker in the
house) situation, they've chosen linux over windows and have no
complaints or regrets (although they all still love the old Macintosh
upstairs :-).

Terry Smith
Cape Cod USA
 
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 09:24, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
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> Well, I gotta say that Redhat does have a point.  I do think that linux is not 
> yet ready for the everyday desktop user except for Lindows - for a relatively 
> small subpopulation.  
> 
> I use it exclusively but then I have been playing with linux for years now.  I 
> "get it".  My father, wife, sisters...they don't get it.  They get boggled by 
> configuration this and that, logins, etc.  They are all too used to just 
> firing up and going with what is familiar.  Then, the biggy, is games.  If 
> you play games then you are set to go through even more work with only a 
> fractional hope that the game will work (working with wine is not straightup 
> simple and obvious).  The newest games rarely work, or work only poorly.  Not 
> a great way to make a favorable impression.  
> 
> Lindows is set to give linux a poor name as well, with their default 
> run-as-root setup.  Sure, it makes it install and run similar to windoze but 
> it also makes it just as vulnerable as windoze.  This can only make people 
> think (ultimately) that linux is no more free viruses, worms, and hack 
> attacks as windoze.  
> 
> I do think that for those who really just do web browsing, document editing, 
> emailing, then linux is perfectly valid.  For those who game it just isn't 
> there and wont be until linux gets more game titles itself or wine/winex gets 
> much better and easier to work with.  
> 
> On Sunday 09 November 2003 02:58 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > On Sunday 09 November 2003 02:20 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > Am I alone in noticing the insanity.  As if SCO wasn't bad enough.
> > > Lycoris deciding that it can rewrite the GPL.  Now the  CEO of RedHat
> > > (or as I've heard of late DeadRat) is advocating that Home users stick
> > > with Windows as Linux isn't ready for the desktop.  Maybe I should send
> > > the SOB a copy of 9.2 when it's ready to show him what RH could have
> > > been if they didn't suffer from NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome.
> > >
> > > http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39117575,00.htm
> > >
> > > James
> >
> > Nah - you're not alone. I posted a message with a link to an announcement
> > about this. The subject went something like "Redhat = traitors?"... <grin>
> 
> - -- 
> Faith is the very antithesis of reason, injudiciousness a critical component 
> of spiritual devotion.
> - --Krakauer
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