Actually, one need NOT also go to antiroll bars and coil springs if shocks are introduced.


The latest DSR's like Stohr's do not have any antiroll bars at all.

I happpen to think that coil springs would shorten up the tuning time for different tracks, but they don't have to be used. One can run real shocks with the current rubber springs.

We can also keep the shock costs low with control to where they will would have no appreciable cost over the pressent setup with the cartefully concocted tefllon washers, etc. in the pivot points for damping. No more setting the drag tension on each corner before every session. Any rubber that has much inherent damping is probably not going to last forever, either.


Chuck





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<<<One last time (really) 
Shocks need not be expensive and they are one thing that would make F500 more like a real formula car that ISN'T just perception. 
 
Restricting them to steel with one external adjustment might help. 
Pulling apart the trophy position's shocks at Run-offs to see if the insides have been altered would probably be sufficient. >>> 


Chuck -
With all due respect, I couldn't disagree more.

I came to F500 from FF/CF. Part of the reason was that I was tired of spending money on shocks; in three years I had three different sets, and never did have the bucks for any that were competitive. I also went through three different spring ratios at each end of the car, only to discover that without better shocks, I couldn't get the mechanical grip right anyway. (To be fair, engine costs were also a big part of the equation for me)

Here's the real problem: When you go to shocks, you also go to springs and ARBs. This introduces a bunch of new variables, all of which cost money for different options, and cost track time (read $$$ in test days) to try out and find the right combination for your car/driver.

BTW, the idea that restricting to a shock design with less adjustability lowers cost just doesn't fly. NASCAR does this, and the teams end up carrying a bunch of different shocks and valving setups so that they can change them out to suit diffferent situations. Unless you go to a spec, sealed shock, it won't accomplish the goal you are aiming at. As for spec shocks, as the FSCCA guys how that program is working out for them....

<<<One last thought: It may also be that road racing overall just isn't very popular right now anyway. Gas prices ARE having an effect >>>
 
Good point. My car is in the garage this year, but it's not because I have decided to race something different - I just haven't been able to race, period.

Oh, well.....
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