That's a great point but....  Didn't they add motorcycle engines to FC and add 
a FS class and a F1000 class????  I think that because the numbers are down on 
the current f5 class, they have no interest in changing the rules.  IF and a 
big IF, a new engine package would make the class look more atractive, they 
might listen.  They're interested in putting more members money in their 
pockets as discussed, making changes that keeps the frames from breaking, 
doesn't do that.
   
  CR

dan hester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  you can follow this link to fsae rules, a lot fo them were originally copied 
right out of the scca f500 and gcr, they have been reworked quite a bit the 
last 5 years but the original wording and diagrams you will see here came 
right out of our book
the throttle restrictor is 20mm which is tiny,
And none of this matters anyway, this thread comes up every 3 or 4 month's 
gets done to death with everyone wishfull thinking and the end result will 
be
"it doesnt coincide with the original intent of the classrules"
it doenst matter if you have 99% of the f500 racers on board , its been 
proven time and time again
the board will turn down any changes in this class reguardless of any of the 
circumstances.
this is the only club where You pay all the bills for all of thier spending, 
they take the club money and spend on thier precious PRO series, and yet you 
have absolutely no say in what goes on in the scca, the rules for your OWN 
classes etc. ITs a futile effort and this alone has caused more people not 
to get into F500 than anything else. Hell you can't even get a piece of 
rubber swapped out, to alleviate unnecessary breaking and safety concerns, 
if i remember correctly the original intent of the class was to be low 
cost......... replacing broken a-arms and frame welding doesnt seem too low 
cost. So i guess the original intent of the class doesn't count here, only 
where its convenient for the bod to supress the f500 community. I loved 
racing the f500 class and Ive been staring at a half complete f500 car in my 
garage for 3 years now and to tell you the truth i dont think im ever going 
to get the motivation to finish it because of the bs ive seen come from the 
scca and thier total disregard for the paying members.There is absolutely no 
excuse for any class to be swept under the rug the way we have been. SO make 
sure you all renew your memberships on time and pay all your fees, The Pro 
series need some advertising $$$ for this year, and there too busy approving 
all the rules changes in the other classes to notice you.

dan


http://students.sae.org/competitions/formulaseries/rules/rules.pdf


>From: John Whitling 
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival.
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:41:59 -0400
>
>FSAE allows all kinds of engine mods so I don't think we could get much
>from them except how to make it expensive. They havwe lots of
>information but none of it based around cheap (or dependable) horsepower.
>
>Jan Schmidt wrote:
>
> >If we eventually went the 600 crotch rocket route, we would do good to
> >talk to the Formula SAE folks. I have seen them at solo events and
> >picked their brains on numerous occasions. They currently use fuel
> >injection with a tiny throttle body. I think the throttle body is around
> >2 inches in diameter. I was told by one of the kids that the engine
> >produces about 80% of what it did from the factory, due to the
> >restricted throttle size. They still have more power than they know what
> >to do with!
> >Bill Schmidt 88 RD Kawi
>
>[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name 
>of jwhit.vcf]


 
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