I have ridden a Suzuki TL 1000, a Ducati 1000 & there are both great & very smooth engines. Perhaps a bit too much power though at 1000cc.
Thanks ... Jay Novak -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Reinhardt Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 11:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [F500] Class survival. Jay, I've raced V-twins pro class for several years, I kinda know what they are about.... Are we talking road race v twins or cruiser motors??? V-twin road race bike are expensive to keep going as compared to 4 bangers. I raced 4 bangers also..... I don't know how the Duc motor fit in there, it's quite a bit longer than a 4 cylinder motor, the CBR600rr is a very short motor, and it's tight in my car.... CR Jay Novak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris, all the modern Vtwins or inline twins have 6 speeds & some even have dry sumps. I have actually had a Ducati engine in the back of my F500 chassis & it fits like a dream. I think you should ride a 60 deg Vtwin they are very smooth & do not turn 15000 rpm. Thanks ... Jay Novak -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Reinhardt Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [F500] Class survival. Jay, I think a 60 degree V-twin would shake the living heck out of one of those cars, the 2 cycle is bad enough. They are also pretty tall, high CG's. A 90 degree v-twin like a Ducati would be better suited, but I think it would be too long. Also most 60 degree v-twins only have 3 or 4 speeds and they are not designed for road racing. I think you would be better off modifying a chassis to handle a motor that was designed for road racing, rather than re engineering an engine to make it work. Read as it would be cheaper also.... Think of the nightmare of teching a modified engine vs a stock one????? CR Jay Novak wrote: Another thing we might want to consider is V twin bike engines because they will fit in all our existing chassis. The 4 cyl bike engines will not fit without major chassis cut up. Now a V twin will need to be bigger than 600cc to get the speed, maybe 800cc watercooled or 1000cc air cooled. Thanks ... Jay Novak -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 12:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival. The big problem is that classes never seem to change. Those invested would rather protect their investment and "go down with the ship" with ever decreasing class sizes rather than change with the times. See the discussion on Apexspeed about F"D". We don't need another $45-50K class. I am not saying the design is even remotely right, so don't beat me up. Look at 600racing.com and see what they have done and the involved costs. Someone should be able to design a real rule set that would allow an f600/fd/fwhatever that incorporates real designs without being a "spec" class and has reasonable cost containments built in. Several people have done legwork into engines, transmission, shocks, etc. Maybe we should all listen. Maybe I should just go put on the nomex now... jim ----- Original Message ---- From: Jay Novak To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:04:36 PM Subject: RE: [F500] Kodiak Rims ? That will work for the rear. Thanks ... Jay Novak -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim's Lawn Shop Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [F500] Kodiak Rims ? Jay, They have a 10x8 with 4 inch backspace designed to clear brakes. They list it in the link I posted for $97.50, that sounds pretty good for everything but the center. I've gotta call em Monday and see how many pounds? Got thinking, I have 4 or 5 centers out of the dead Kodiaks, these might be big enough to use in the Welds? Have to get some dimensions..... Thanks Dave Phaneuf -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/716 - Release Date: 3/9/2007 6:53 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/716 - Release Date: 3/9/2007 6:53 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/716 - Release Date: 3/9/2007 6:53 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/716 - Release Date: 3/9/2007 6:53 PM --------------------------------- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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