I totally agree with your assessment. We're not having any problems keeping racers. We're having problems GETTING racers. Thus these perception issues are large.
Chris Greenwald wrote: > Part of the problem is getting people to give F500 a try. Once you > drive the car, you will be hooked; however you may not give it a > chance because it isn't the car you had envisioned. Forget the fact > that many people envision themselves immediately starting out in F1 > or the Nextel Cup. As racers, WE don't care what it sounds like, but > the people who haven't yet been in a race car do care. They care more > about the IMAGE than the racing. That all changes once you get on the > track. > > Just my .01 > > -Chris > > > On Mar 13, 2007, at 7:45 AM, edward capullo wrote: > >> George >> You are new so I am going to be gentle. Did you buy the car to rev >> up the motor and listen to it or to RACE it? Who gives a [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> what >> it sounds like if you are having fun and winning races? If you are >> not in it to have fun and win then why are you in racing? I have >> been in various kinds of racing since 1960 and have driven fully >> muffled cars to wide open rails.(Nothing will ever top the sound of >> the eight short pipes in front of me when I had my front-engined >> rail not counting the sound of the other guy's eight pipes in the >> next lane..just ask "Q") I believe that the "compelling reasons" >> that had you decide on the F500 probably centered around cost >> effectiveness (bang for the buck) >> There is just no way to go as fast for so little money in any other >> class. So DRIVE the car and let others worry about what it sounds >> like...especially when you are PASSING them. >> Capt. Eddie >> >>> From: "george" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival. >>> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:55:19 -0800 >>> >>> Let me choose different words then in order to prevent a comparison >>> to cars >>> that don't exist when I start up my F500 at the racetrack. >>> >>> Chuck, my comments are for the list to seriously consider and not >>> directed >>> at you. >>> >>> The exhaust note of the F500 sounds silly and stupid. The only >>> thing worse >>> is a mosquito buzzing your ear at 2 in the morning on a hot summer >>> night. >>> The exhaust sound was the ONLY reason why I held off from buying >>> one over >>> the last 3 years. There are other compelling reasons why ended up >>> buying >>> one, but I still can't stand the sound of it. Aside from that, I am >>> still >>> one of the new four that will be racing F500 on the west coast. >>> >>> Since the question was asked how to increase the numbers of the >>> class, I >>> thought I'd offer an "outsider's" opinion regarding the biggest >>> reason why >>> most folks I know have no interest in buying one: Race cars should >>> sound >>> "cool." The exhaust note of the F500 isn't cool. Why do you think >>> kids & >>> grown ups rev up engines? It sounds cool. When's the last time you >>> heard a >>> field of F500 revving up their engines to show them off? IMO, they >>> don't >>> because it would sound like a gathering of lumberjacks revving up >>> chain saws >>> because there's nothing better to do if you're holding a chain saw >>> and not >>> cutting wood. Chain saws are not race cars and if you wanted to buy >>> a race >>> car, why buy one that has a chain saw strapped to the rear of it? >>> >>> Hopefully I didn't offend anyone. See you at the track >>> >>> George >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "McAbee, Chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:25 PM >>> Subject: RE: [F500] Class survival. >>> >>> >>> > I think the bigger question is .....What does a race car sound like? >>> > >>> > In SCCA we run everything from Showroom Stock to 5 Liter GT-1 >>> cars and >>> > everything in between, hitting most of the notes between near >>> silence >>> > and the bass sounds of the Big Bores. I know we all can pick either >>> > classes or particular cars and say they either don't sound like a >>> race >>> > car or they just plain sound lousy. Truth be told, to me, F1 >>> cars no >>> > longer sound like race cars....they sound like sewing machines on >>> > steroids with a mega sound system, but they don't sound like an >>> internal >>> > combustion engine; at 20K RPM how could they. >>> > >>> > While I may be nearing the age of dirt, I can recall many >>> devastatingly >>> > quick cars the really didn't sound like race cars - the CART cars >>> in the >>> > 70's & 80's with the Turbo's acting like mufflers as far as sound >>> > quality was concerned. The famous Porsche 917-30KL with it's >>> twin turbo >>> > 5.4L engine didn't really sound like a 'racecar'; but it sure could >>> > perform. >>> > >>> > Maybe someone could design a pipe that would drop our exhaust >>> sound 4 or >>> > 5 octaves? >>> > >>> > We are what we are! Now let's get the cars out of the garage and go >>> > racing. With any kind of luck, I'll be at Road Atlanta in 2 weeks. >>> > >>> > >>> > Chuck McAbee >>> > SEDIV #16 >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>> george >>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:41 AM >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival. >>> > >>> > I'm new to F500 racing and I think there's only one problem with the >>> > racecar: >>> > >>> > It doesn't sound like a racecar. >>> > >>> > Any other change is irrelevant IMO because if it doesn't sound >>> like a >>> > racecar, no one would if it had coilovers, a 6 speed transmission >>> with >>> > reverse, 13" tires, and a 5 bazzilion cc motor that ran on water. >>> > >>> > George >>> > the new guy that's simple minded >>> > _ >>> > ----------------------------------------- >>> > This email transmission and any accompanying attachments may >>> > contain CSX privileged and confidential information intended only >>> > for the use of the intended addressee. 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