Captain Eddie,

There's no reason to be gentle. I don't care enough to bothered by it.

Don't confuse my personal opinion of the noise maker with the comments I
hear OTHERS make. There's a big difference. I already own one and will be
racing it this year. Yet that adds only one person to the F500 ranks.

Why did I buy one? They're inexpensive and more importantly, I have a great
group to race and hang out with here on the left coast. Plus, I have ear
plugs.

So, you used to race front engine rail? Are you older than dirt or the just
the same age as Don Clar?

George

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "edward capullo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival.


> George
> You are new so I am going to be gentle. Did you buy the car to rev up the
> motor and listen to it or to RACE it? Who gives a [EMAIL PROTECTED] what it 
> sounds like
> if you are having fun and winning races? If you are not in it to have fun
> and win then why are you in racing? I have been in various kinds of racing
> since 1960 and have driven fully muffled cars to wide open rails.(Nothing
> will ever top the sound of the eight short pipes in front of me when I had
> my front-engined rail not counting the sound of the other guy's eight
pipes
> in the next lane..just ask "Q") I believe that the "compelling reasons"
that
> had you decide on the F500 probably centered around cost effectiveness
(bang
> for the buck)
> There is just no way to go as fast for so little money in any other class.
> So DRIVE the car and let others worry about what it sounds
like...especially
> when you are PASSING them.
> Capt. Eddie
>
> >From: "george" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival.
> >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:55:19 -0800
> >
> >Let me choose different words then in order to prevent a comparison to
cars
> >that don't exist when I start up my F500 at the racetrack.
> >
> >Chuck, my comments are for the list to seriously consider and not
directed
> >at you.
> >
> >The exhaust note of the F500 sounds silly and stupid. The only thing
worse
> >is a mosquito buzzing your ear at 2 in the morning on a hot summer night.
> >The exhaust sound was the ONLY reason why I held off from buying one over
> >the last 3 years. There are other compelling reasons why ended up buying
> >one, but I still can't stand the sound of it. Aside from that, I am still
> >one of the new four that will be racing F500 on the west coast.
> >
> >Since the question was asked how to increase the numbers of the class, I
> >thought I'd offer an "outsider's" opinion regarding the biggest reason
why
> >most folks I know have no interest in buying one: Race cars should sound
> >"cool." The exhaust note of the F500 isn't cool. Why do you think kids &
> >grown ups rev up engines? It sounds cool. When's the last time you heard
a
> >field of F500 revving up their engines to show them off? IMO, they don't
> >because it would sound like a gathering of lumberjacks revving up chain
> >saws
> >because there's nothing better to do if you're holding a chain saw and
not
> >cutting wood. Chain saws are not race cars and if you wanted to buy a
race
> >car, why buy one that has a chain saw strapped to the rear of it?
> >
> >Hopefully I didn't offend anyone. See you at the track
> >
> >George
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "McAbee, Chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:25 PM
> >Subject: RE: [F500] Class survival.
> >
> >
> > > I think the bigger question is .....What does a race car sound like?
> > >
> > > In SCCA we run everything from Showroom Stock to 5 Liter GT-1 cars and
> > > everything in between, hitting most of the notes between near silence
> > > and the bass sounds of the Big Bores.  I know we all can pick either
> > > classes or particular cars and say they either don't sound like a race
> > > car or they just plain sound lousy.  Truth be told, to me, F1 cars no
> > > longer sound like race cars....they sound like sewing machines on
> > > steroids with a mega sound system, but they don't sound like an
internal
> > > combustion engine; at 20K RPM how could they.
> > >
> > > While I may be nearing the age of dirt, I can recall many
devastatingly
> > > quick cars the really didn't sound like race cars - the CART cars in
the
> > > 70's & 80's with the Turbo's acting like mufflers as far as sound
> > > quality was concerned.  The famous Porsche 917-30KL with it's twin
turbo
> > > 5.4L engine didn't really sound like a 'racecar'; but it sure could
> > > perform.
> > >
> > > Maybe someone could design a pipe that would drop our exhaust sound 4
or
> > > 5 octaves?
> > >
> > > We are what we are!  Now let's get the cars out of the garage and go
> > > racing.  With any kind of luck, I'll be at Road Atlanta in 2 weeks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Chuck McAbee
> > > SEDIV #16
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
george
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:41 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival.
> > >
> > > I'm new to F500 racing and I think there's only one problem with the
> > > racecar:
> > >
> > > It doesn't sound like a racecar.
> > >
> > > Any other change is irrelevant IMO because if it doesn't sound like a
> > > racecar, no one would if it had coilovers, a 6 speed transmission with
> > > reverse, 13" tires, and a 5 bazzilion cc motor that ran on water.
> > >
> > > George
> > > the new guy that's simple minded
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