I am just out of your demographic.  I hate forums.  I have quit posting on
every forum that has gone from email list to forum.  Forums are just too hard
to do from my phone.  I don't have time to go to multiple web pages.  This I
can do any time, any where from my phone, palm, laptop, or computer.  Don't
just think only the old are stubborn...

jim

----- Original Message ----
From: Flash. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday,
March 14, 2007 9:57:16 PM
Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival. - losing vs.
gaining - an outsider's viewpoint.

thanks for your kind words, which add
detail to the comments i made in a
generic sense.  I would further consider
the specmiata.com forum software
outdated, it's about 5 years past its prime
with VBB and phpBB replacing it
in almost every other venue.  But getting "old
guys" to change their ways is
not a trivial task.

I started on the f500 forum
too, for a kid of my age (18-25 demo), forums
are our first source of
knowledge of a particular topic.  Look at the
success of Wikipedia which is
basically a fan-supported encyclopedia/forum.

fwiw (an aside):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F500

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spec_miata
both resources anyone that feels they might like to add to are welcome to

I
dont want to go too far down this comparison path, because I don't
consider SM
an equal to f500, I think they are very different animals.  My
choosing SM
over f500 has a lot to do with presentation of the community and
all the
components together have made me forge my way into amateur racing.
WITHOUT THE
SUPPORT OF MAZDA, MY FRIENDS IN THE COMMUNITY, SPECMIATA.COM,
MIATA.NET and
MAZDA'S REVITUP I would have NOTHING to do with amateur racing
in any way,
even with regard to Mazda.  I would be fumbling with my civic's
stereo still.
And to leave SM, well I am making a decent second living in
miata parts, so it
won't be soon.  (race sunday, sell monday).

SM is a great first step.
Perhaps f500 or others should align themselves
with illustrating how they can
become the "next step" or...

fund or support a "first step" in open wheel,
even if that means a fendered
car, or simplify f500 to be that first step.

I
might make an unpopular statement here but I feel that fvee and f500 are
too
similar, they should be seperated further...or somehow combined
(:ducks:).

I
have batted around the idea of a succession tree for club racing, I think
it's
something SCCA out to consider formerly supporting at the corporate
level.
On 3/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I second
the motion.
> Louie Schultz
> Philly Region
>
>
> > The excerpt below from
Flash's post is a very important observation.
> >
> > When I first began
looking at formula cars, I didn't really take notice
> > of F500 because there
wasn't any readily available info on the cars. I
> > happened
> > to stumble
across this mail list and also a very nice modern forum. I am
> > an Internet
fanatic so I immediately began posting on the "forum-style"
> > message board.
I didn't get much response to my questions other than to
> > use the mail
list. Although I have come to appreciate all of the help I
> > have received
from the mail list, I must say it is the biggest PITA to
> > use and read.
Young folks who have grown up with the Internet have come
> > to use modern
forums for anything and everything.
> >
> > This may seem trivial, but groups
that use modern means to foster an
> > Internet-based community of information
sharing certainly have a leg up
> > on our group. I don't want to have to weed
through 200 emails to find a
> > post about tire mounting. And you can forget
the search function. I want
> > to go to a tech area, or off topic area, or
events area, etc. I want
> > pictures in my messages. I really feel that
moving this community to the
> > more modern forum would increase the amount
of folks asking questions
> > about the class.
> >
> > In fact, lately I have
been reading the specmiata.com forum just to see
> > what the class is about.
The feeling of comraderie and ease of use found
> > on that forum has inspired
me to explore adding a spec miata to my
> > stable. Again, it has nothing to
do with not liking my car (I love it!);
> > it has more to do with feeling
like I am part of a community that is
> > pulling in the same direction.
> >
>
> I know I haven't contributed to this community much only because I know
> >
just enough to get in trouble. However, I do have a background in
> > Internet
services ( manage a major government multimedia and Internet
> > services
division) and would be happy to assist in getting us
> modernized.
> >
> >
Thanks for "listening",
> >
> > Lee
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [F500] Class survival. - losing vs. gaining - an
outsider's
> > > viewpoint.
> > > From:
> > > "Flash."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date:
> > > Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:02:52 -0500
>
> > To:
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > > To:
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > >
>
> > Take a look at your community for a moment.  As a spec miata driver we
>
have
> > > the obvious specmiata.com to support that angle, and we have
miata.net
> .
> > > Both have extensive memberships, huge aftermarket and
manufacturer
> support,
> > > and they easily advertise themselves.  Where is
f500's simple, generic
> > > resource on getting in and getting the wheels
spinning.  (think about
> other
> > > specific examples, i.e. vw vortex for
some of the production classes,
> > > bimmerworld for those guys, etc, etc).
Also, where is SCCA magazine
> and GRM
> > > magazine support?  I don't think
I've ever seen an interesting write
> up on
> > > what an f500 is or what the
class is about.
>



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