Ive got a spare, unused server with a 1200gig/month transfer. Should hold up to forum traffic. Flash, I can either throw up a quick phpBB or you said you were working on something, if you want to email me off list i can host it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keep your eyes out for www.f500forum.com , but i can change it if you guys think of a better name. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Flash." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival. - losing vs. gaining - anoutsider'sviewpoint. > i know Specmiata.com costs a healthy fortune to run, Jim daniels ran it out > of pocket for many years at his cost, aside from some generous paid ad > supporters. It was sold last week or so to saferacer.com. > > the software is $0(phpBB) - $100(vbb) a year or so, a website can be as > little as $25/month or as much as a few thousand. Considering the volume I > would think a wise entrepeneur could make the site pay for itself and put a > few bucks into his coffers for the frustration of modding it. > > Who mods this board and pays for it? > > > On 3/14/07, Jay Novak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is a great idea Flash, I suspect it takes a huge amount of work to > > keep > > a forum going as well as some $$$. How do we get something like this > > going. > > > > Thanks ... Jay Novak > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Flash. > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:57 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival. - losing vs. gaining - an > > outsider'sviewpoint. > > > > > > thanks for your kind words, which add detail to the comments i made in a > > generic sense. I would further consider the specmiata.com forum software > > outdated, it's about 5 years past its prime with VBB and phpBB replacing > > it > > in almost every other venue. But getting "old guys" to change their ways > > is > > not a trivial task. > > > > I started on the f500 forum too, for a kid of my age (18-25 demo), forums > > are our first source of knowledge of a particular topic. Look at the > > success of Wikipedia which is basically a fan-supported > > encyclopedia/forum. > > > > fwiw (an aside): > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F500 > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spec_miata > > > > both resources anyone that feels they might like to add to are welcome to > > > > I dont want to go too far down this comparison path, because I don't > > consider SM an equal to f500, I think they are very different animals. My > > choosing SM over f500 has a lot to do with presentation of the community > > and > > all the components together have made me forge my way into amateur racing. > > WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF MAZDA, MY FRIENDS IN THE COMMUNITY, SPECMIATA.COM, > > MIATA.NET and MAZDA'S REVITUP I would have NOTHING to do with amateur > > racing > > in any way, even with regard to Mazda. I would be fumbling with my > > civic's > > stereo still. And to leave SM, well I am making a decent second living in > > miata parts, so it won't be soon. (race sunday, sell monday). > > > > SM is a great first step. Perhaps f500 or others should align themselves > > with illustrating how they can become the "next step" or... > > > > fund or support a "first step" in open wheel, even if that means a > > fendered > > car, or simplify f500 to be that first step. > > > > I might make an unpopular statement here but I feel that fvee and f500 are > > too similar, they should be seperated further...or somehow combined > > (:ducks:). > > > > I have batted around the idea of a succession tree for club racing, I > > think > > it's something SCCA out to consider formerly supporting at the corporate > > level. > > > > > > On 3/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I second the motion. > > > Louie Schultz > > > Philly Region > > > > > > > > > > The excerpt below from Flash's post is a very important observation. > > > > > > > > When I first began looking at formula cars, I didn't really take > > notice > > > > of F500 because there wasn't any readily available info on the cars. I > > > > happened > > > > to stumble across this mail list and also a very nice modern forum. I > > am > > > > an Internet fanatic so I immediately began posting on the > > "forum-style" > > > > message board. I didn't get much response to my questions other than > > to > > > > use the mail list. Although I have come to appreciate all of the help > > I > > > > have received from the mail list, I must say it is the biggest PITA to > > > > use and read. Young folks who have grown up with the Internet have > > come > > > > to use modern forums for anything and everything. > > > > > > > > This may seem trivial, but groups that use modern means to foster an > > > > Internet-based community of information sharing certainly have a leg > > up > > > > on our group. I don't want to have to weed through 200 emails to find > > a > > > > post about tire mounting. And you can forget the search function. I > > want > > > > to go to a tech area, or off topic area, or events area, etc. I want > > > > pictures in my messages. I really feel that moving this community to > > the > > > > more modern forum would increase the amount of folks asking questions > > > > about the class. > > > > > > > > In fact, lately I have been reading the specmiata.com forum just to > > see > > > > what the class is about. The feeling of comraderie and ease of use > > found > > > > on that forum has inspired me to explore adding a spec miata to my > > > > stable. Again, it has nothing to do with not liking my car (I love > > it!); > > > > it has more to do with feeling like I am part of a community that is > > > > pulling in the same direction. > > > > > > > > I know I haven't contributed to this community much only because I > > know > > > > just enough to get in trouble. However, I do have a background in > > > > Internet services ( manage a major government multimedia and Internet > > > > services division) and would be happy to assist in getting us > > > modernized. > > > > > > > > Thanks for "listening", > > > > > > > > Lee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Subject: > > > > > Re: [F500] Class survival. - losing vs. gaining - an outsider's > > > > > viewpoint. > > > > > From: > > > > > "Flash." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Date: > > > > > Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:02:52 -0500 > > > > > To: > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take a look at your community for a moment. As a spec miata driver > > we > > > have > > > > > the obvious specmiata.com to support that angle, and we have > > miata.net > > > . > > > > > Both have extensive memberships, huge aftermarket and manufacturer > > > support, > > > > > and they easily advertise themselves. Where is f500's simple, > > generic > > > > > resource on getting in and getting the wheels spinning. (think > > about > > > other > > > > > specific examples, i.e. vw vortex for some of the production > > classes, > > > > > bimmerworld for those guys, etc, etc). Also, where is SCCA magazine > > > and GRM > > > > > magazine support? I don't think I've ever seen an interesting write > > > up on > > > > > what an f500 is or what the class is about. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://beatracing.com > > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/721 - Release Date: 3/13/2007 > > 4:51 PM > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/721 - Release Date: 3/13/2007 > > 4:51 PM > > > > > > -- > http://beatracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata ________________________________ FormulaCar Magazine - A Proud Supporter of Formula 500 The Official Publication of Junior Formula Car Racing Subscribe Today! www.formulacarmag.com or 519-624-2003 _________________________________ _______________________________________________ F500 mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change options please visit: http://f500.org/mailman/listinfo/f500 *** Please, DO NOT send unsubscribe requests to the mailing list! ***
