i think us early adopters are a much smaller majority, to be honest.  the
forum software will catchup with the mobile world any time now.  And dont
feel bad, I'll be out of my own demo in about 2 months, and then im sure i
will agree with you more.

On 3/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am just out of your demographic.  I hate forums.  I have quit posting on
> every forum that has gone from email list to forum.  Forums are just too
> hard
> to do from my phone.  I don't have time to go to multiple web pages.  This
> I
> can do any time, any where from my phone, palm, laptop, or
> computer.  Don't
> just think only the old are stubborn...
>
> jim
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Flash. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday,
> March 14, 2007 9:57:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival. - losing vs.
> gaining - an outsider's viewpoint.
>
> thanks for your kind words, which add
> detail to the comments i made in a
> generic sense.  I would further consider
> the specmiata.com forum software
> outdated, it's about 5 years past its prime
> with VBB and phpBB replacing it
> in almost every other venue.  But getting "old
> guys" to change their ways is
> not a trivial task.
>
> I started on the f500 forum
> too, for a kid of my age (18-25 demo), forums
> are our first source of
> knowledge of a particular topic.  Look at the
> success of Wikipedia which is
> basically a fan-supported encyclopedia/forum.
>
> fwiw (an aside):
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F500
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spec_miata
> both resources anyone that feels they might like to add to are welcome to
>
> I
> dont want to go too far down this comparison path, because I don't
> consider SM
> an equal to f500, I think they are very different animals.  My
> choosing SM
> over f500 has a lot to do with presentation of the community and
> all the
> components together have made me forge my way into amateur racing.
> WITHOUT THE
> SUPPORT OF MAZDA, MY FRIENDS IN THE COMMUNITY, SPECMIATA.COM,
> MIATA.NET and
> MAZDA'S REVITUP I would have NOTHING to do with amateur racing
> in any way,
> even with regard to Mazda.  I would be fumbling with my civic's
> stereo still.
> And to leave SM, well I am making a decent second living in
> miata parts, so it
> won't be soon.  (race sunday, sell monday).
>
> SM is a great first step.
> Perhaps f500 or others should align themselves
> with illustrating how they can
> become the "next step" or...
>
> fund or support a "first step" in open wheel,
> even if that means a fendered
> car, or simplify f500 to be that first step.
>
> I
> might make an unpopular statement here but I feel that fvee and f500 are
> too
> similar, they should be seperated further...or somehow combined
> (:ducks:).
>
> I
> have batted around the idea of a succession tree for club racing, I think
> it's
> something SCCA out to consider formerly supporting at the corporate
> level.
> On 3/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I second
> the motion.
> > Louie Schultz
> > Philly Region
> >
> >
> > > The excerpt below from
> Flash's post is a very important observation.
> > >
> > > When I first began
> looking at formula cars, I didn't really take notice
> > > of F500 because there
> wasn't any readily available info on the cars. I
> > > happened
> > > to stumble
> across this mail list and also a very nice modern forum. I am
> > > an Internet
> fanatic so I immediately began posting on the "forum-style"
> > > message board.
> I didn't get much response to my questions other than to
> > > use the mail
> list. Although I have come to appreciate all of the help I
> > > have received
> from the mail list, I must say it is the biggest PITA to
> > > use and read.
> Young folks who have grown up with the Internet have come
> > > to use modern
> forums for anything and everything.
> > >
> > > This may seem trivial, but groups
> that use modern means to foster an
> > > Internet-based community of information
> sharing certainly have a leg up
> > > on our group. I don't want to have to weed
> through 200 emails to find a
> > > post about tire mounting. And you can forget
> the search function. I want
> > > to go to a tech area, or off topic area, or
> events area, etc. I want
> > > pictures in my messages. I really feel that
> moving this community to the
> > > more modern forum would increase the amount
> of folks asking questions
> > > about the class.
> > >
> > > In fact, lately I have
> been reading the specmiata.com forum just to see
> > > what the class is about.
> The feeling of comraderie and ease of use found
> > > on that forum has inspired
> me to explore adding a spec miata to my
> > > stable. Again, it has nothing to
> do with not liking my car (I love it!);
> > > it has more to do with feeling
> like I am part of a community that is
> > > pulling in the same direction.
> > >
> >
> > I know I haven't contributed to this community much only because I know
> > >
> just enough to get in trouble. However, I do have a background in
> > > Internet
> services ( manage a major government multimedia and Internet
> > > services
> division) and would be happy to assist in getting us
> > modernized.
> > >
> > >
> Thanks for "listening",
> > >
> > > Lee
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [F500] Class survival. - losing vs. gaining - an
> outsider's
> > > > viewpoint.
> > > > From:
> > > > "Flash."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Date:
> > > > Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:02:52 -0500
> >
> > > To:
> > > > [email protected]
> > > >
> > > > To:
> > > > [email protected]
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > > Take a look at your community for a moment.  As a spec miata driver we
> >
> have
> > > > the obvious specmiata.com to support that angle, and we have
> miata.net
> > .
> > > > Both have extensive memberships, huge aftermarket and
> manufacturer
> > support,
> > > > and they easily advertise themselves.  Where is
> f500's simple, generic
> > > > resource on getting in and getting the wheels
> spinning.  (think about
> > other
> > > > specific examples, i.e. vw vortex for
> some of the production classes,
> > > > bimmerworld for those guys, etc, etc).
> Also, where is SCCA magazine
> > and GRM
> > > > magazine support?  I don't think
> I've ever seen an interesting write
> > up on
> > > > what an f500 is or what the
> class is about.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> http://beatracing.com
> 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata
>



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