if you put his name as a rule in your spam filter, it at least cuts out some 
garbage

----- Original Message ----
From: Art <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:44:13 AM
Subject: RE: [F500] Wheels

Ted,

Couldn't have said it better myself!

Art 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted
Rudolph
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 7:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [F500] Wheels

"Rude" & "Embarrassing" don't begin to describe this guy's behavior.
I've had enough of his crap....

>From: "Chris Reinhardt"
> This is really a pointless argument with you.

Now you know how the rest of us feel about _unqualified opinions_.

> You win....

There's a "perennial loser" joke in there somewhere, but I'll leave it as an
exercise for the reader.

Hopefully Daryle realizes this idiot doesn't represent F500.

Mr. Reinhardt - since you totally ignored the question before I'll repost
it:

>Mark Osterbrink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris, you seem to have 
>a lot of input to the class, but I haven't seen your name around long.  
>How many seasons have you been racing F500, and what area of the 
>country, if you don't mind my asking?

Read Chris Eveland's description of his driver's school experience behind
the wheel of his Red Devil last weekend. After you've read that, Mr.
Reinhardt, please post what YOU found to be so disappointing about YOUR
DRIVING experience in YOUR F500. Until you can write about that, I'd suggest
you do us REAL DRIVERS a favor and STFU with all your spam. 

To summarize - either get in the game or go back into the audience.

To the rest of the list.... my apologies for stooping to his level, but I
reached mey limit with his insulting behavior.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Reinhardt
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 7:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [F500] Wheels

 This is really a pointless argument with you.
   
  You win....
   
  CR

Daryle Redlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi,

What production line. We build one off wheel sets. Our average order size is
two sets. We spend about two hours on every build trying to maximize the

layout for maximum strength and light weight. I wish I had a big assembly
line. Usually customers will order a set or two then do some testing and

decide that they want to change it and they order again with different
specs. Not to many builds do we do twice. So, yes it is the same. I have

faster equipment yes, but it costs alot and I have to reflect that in my

price. I'll bet you dollar to donuts that you would charge more if you where
in my shoes. Doesn't really matter, I sleep well at night because I feel we
offer a good mix of quality and price. If you don't like it, you don't have
to buy any.

Daryle Redlin
Kodiak Motorsports Inc.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Reinhardt" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [F500] Wheels


> That's retail one offs, not production. I would hope that if the
material 
> was bought in quantity and not from McMaster, and the plate were
hogged 
> out on a CNC, it would at least the 1/2 time... Not a good comparison
to 
> your production line.
>
> CR
>
> Daryle Redlin wrote:
> Hi ,
> Well I'm not so sure about that. The raw cost of his materials is
139.24
> plus labor. He figures that it takes at least an hour. 60 per hour is
a
> standard rate. That puts it at 199.24. Plus the fasteners,build time,
> polishing of the center etc. Of course he doesn't have to box or
package 
> it
> and he doesn't have a shop overhead either. In the past we retailed
these
> wheels for about 120 to 140. Barely sold any. When we factor in the
cost 
> to
> set up equipment to make a couple of parts the cost goes way up. If we

> were
> selling even five sets a month the cost would come way down. But we
don't.
> Even with all things considered our current pricing is only about 50 
> dollars
> more than his costs. Our f500 wheels usually came in at about 4 lbs or
so.
> I'm curious to see the weight. The build looks well thought out and
I'm 
> sure
> will work out fine for the application. Button head bolts are not
really
> meant for that type of application and wouldn't suggest you use them.
Best
> of luck.
>
> Daryle
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Reinhardt"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [F500] Wheels
>
>
>> A hell of lot cheaper than yours!!!
>>
>> CR
>>
>> Daryle Redlin wrote:
>> Dave,
>>
>> What was the total cost of the parts and what was your total time to
>> produce. The most important question of course, is what do they
weigh?
>>
>> Daryle
>> Kodiak Motorsports Inc.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From:
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [F500] Wheels
>>
>>
>>> That's a nice piece of work, dude.
>>>
>>> You need to do some pricing before folks overwhelm you with
requests.
>>>
>>> dg
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jim's Lawn Shop"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 4:25 PM
>>> Subject: [F500] Wheels
>>>
>>>
>>>>A few weeks ago I asked about wheels and mentioned doing my own
centers.
>>>> Well I had some time this weekend to rough them out.
>>>> A few people wondered how it was going so here you go.
>>>> Nothing special and they still need debur and polishing.
>>>>
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p65/FM117/F-Mod%20car/139_3968.jpg
>>>>
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p65/FM117/F-Mod%20car/139_3967-1.jpg
>>>>
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p65/FM117/F-Mod%20car/139_3965.jpg
>>>> Dave Phaneuf
>>
>>
>>
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