--- In [email protected], "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In [email protected], "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >  
> > 
> > "Regarding your claim that TMers need more than TM to quit
> > smoking, that is not what research indicates"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thereby implying that 100% of TMers need no more than TM to quit
> > smoking. Therefore, as it stands, you have committed TWO
> > falsehoods: Not only what you claim you claimed is false, but
> > also your original is false. Care to dig your hole a little
> > deeper? Maybe the TMO should have asked all to abstain from
> > dishonesty for 3 weeks prior to being initiated (or at least
> > those who are addicted to it).
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > -Mark
> 
> **********
> 
> 100%, or nearly so, of the TMers monitored in the scientific studies 
> quoted who quit smoking did so because of the stress relief they 
> experienced from TM, not from other stop-smoking programs (they would 
> not have been allowed in the studies if they were participating in 
> some stop-smoking program other than their practice of TM). 
> Therefore, when I said above that "Regarding your claim that TMers 
> need more than TM to quit smoking, that is not what research 
> indicates," this is a true statement -- people in the studies who 
> quit smoking did so only because of TM. 
> 
> Nobody made any claim about TM enabling everybody in the short run to 
> quit smoking, and, once again, I will remind you that I quoted a 
> scientific study to that effect:
> 
> http://www.tm-online.org.za/faqs.html#11

The stats are from treatments other than TM done by another study. The research 
about 
TM and alcohol  is done by TM folks with such wonderful results compared to a 
real study. 
Correct?





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