Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I would like to try an experiment in compassion

[rudra_joe]

When I do TM regularly for any regular length of time I feel stilted, spacey and depressed, and dopey. And I'm talking when I'm totally straight. If you could ask my wife she would tell you that I get very crazy on TM, like some prozac case. The general consensus is that prozac takers are whack. So are TM takers. Very few regular TM practitioners make any real sense. All you have to do is look to the guru to see what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the world is too evil for a serious movement, which is why we have Christianity.  Maharishi should have kept it simple. if he did then his followers could have made sense. But now they can't be his followers and also make sense.  Just like cats can't play with mice, so also TM followers can't make sense, just like fundie X-tians. Because the credibility gap was stretched so wide that the intellect snapped. Therefore, those who tout Maharishi's messages are basically totally stark raving mad, and just don't know it.  Like all crazy people.     Sure, TM was good. It still is, but people who worship Maharishi and his message are stark raving lunatics. Regardless though, even the more sane stuff I practice is only a panacea. It's the weird connection to being a bodhisattva that gets me through the day, and not much else.  The weed, and other pscyhotropics are mere MU1 receptor brain center awards like cookies for the fat mind. Actually, weed makes me stop and look around and see what I've been too rushed to notice while I was a superficial bastard living a selfish existance. Like the love I have for things, and it makes me slow down and take time to enjoy my wife who needs that kind of attention.  Meditation just makes one ignore everybody and everything while one constantly trys to get their mind right. Meanwhile the whole world has tilted off it's axis.   Weed, is wonderful. How can I stop doing something wonderful like that? That's the freaking problem. I love drugs.  I fucking love them. I love them. I do. Like if you pulled out a sack of peyotes I would jump up and down for three days in joy.  Not much else effects me that way. It's basically fucked.    The bliss of the Divine is supposed to overshadow all others such that one loses their attachment to the relative. Bullshit. For every step I ever took towards the Divine, the relative got equally ever more beautiful as well until being torn by both I ripped in half and they both got a piece. I can't separate the two any longer nor would I want to.  To me, honestly, and I could say this a thousand times if it would make you believe me but four years at MIU burned me out on TM and the transcendent. Now, I can only handle a bit at a time because any more than that is just really boring.  I got really sick of doing the sidhis all the time. I got really sick of sitting in samadhi and feeling perfect and stainless and spiritually vain. The symmetry needed breaking.  I'm not however a puzzled person. My mind just hates repetition by rote repetition by rote repetition by rote repetition by rote.  It gets boring.   In fact, I took to tantra originally so that I could worship in more ways than one. That worship has ever more deepened my experience of transcendence in activity, in spite of the drugs.  In fact, and a TMer can't really get this but it's true, yes, get this, when I close my eyes and sit still for a second, there is always ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Brigante To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I would like to try an experiment in compassion --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote: > On Mar 18, 2005, at 5:23 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: > > >  1. Stop smoking pot (why do you think the TMO asks people to stop > >  illegal drug use prior to starting TM?). > > Um, because they're control freaks who like to make people miserable? > > > >  3. Don't worry about the cigarettes, they'll go away somewhere down > >  the line if you are regular in your TM (and not overwhelming the > >  benefits with psychotropic drugs). > > You're joking, right?   It sounds to me like RJ has been very regular > and the cigs are still very much with him. One of the most addictive > habits known will no doubt take a bit more than TM, or else he would > have already kicked it.  That's great that you did it  quickly, but, > from what I understand, that is not the experience of most, TMers or > not. ********* The whole point of my post was that RJ was not giving TM a chance, because he is using a lot of drugs by his own statement. And RJ has not made any such statement that he has been regular in his practice of TM, in any event. 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