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Brahman as defined in my Vedic Forest Academies was
a"tertiary macroscopic coherent brainwave effect." Ie., the ability of the
mind to remain coherent with three deep object awareness.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 1:03
PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Brahman, Turiya
and Awakening
--- In [email protected],
"tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
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wrote:
>
> Vaj writes:
> Well you seem to be describing the
same experience I have, but I have
> to tell you: I certainly do not
consider myself enlightened. I have
> certainty of the View of
Unity.
> It is very plain, utterly simple. But it's not full
awakening.
> Tom T:
> I don't consider myself enlightened
either because that word has way
> too many loaded meanings. I am
content with Awake because that is my
> experience.
Tom,
However, in recent posts you said Brahman has been
attained. And in
the past you talked a lot (as it appeared to me) about
having attained
Brahaman Consciousness. Has your interpretation of
your experiences
and understandings changed from those over the last year
or so?
I am all for simplicity of _expression_ regarding experiences
and
undertandings. Putting labels on people doesnt seem either
practical
or useful.
However, looking at the characterics, in and
of themselves, of various
sets of experiences and understandings has some
value IMO. Your recent
posts describing characteristics of your experiences
and
understandings raise a basic question in this regard. They seem
to
be, for the most part, articulations of CC turiya type experiences
and
understandings. As Vaj said the other day -- something to the
effect
-- I just dont get the UC/BC aspect of these experiences. And
Vaj has
brought up numerous elements that traditionally are
associated with
BC/UC which don't seem enlivened in your experiences and
understandings.
Your use of the term Brahman may be the stumbling
block, for some, in
understanding your posts. You characterize Brahman as
the experiencer.
That could be seen as a cc turiya experience.
However the use of the
term Brahman may have lead some, possibly you
included, to interpret
the turiya experience as BC. When you replace
Brahamn with Atman or
Inner Wakefulness or Consciousness or Self as the
experiencer, it is
consistent with most turiya descriptions. Can you
interpreat your
experiences / understandings using some or all of these
terms instead
of Brahman?
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