--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't start the celebrations too early. The point > still holds: if you talk about something with no > experiential context, the conversation is meaningless > beyond entertainment. > -Peter >
But, dont we all have the experience of consciousness? In a way, just to be alive gives us all the experiential context we need. Rick Carlstrom > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Great. Glad to hear it. And now the world won't be > > burdened anymore > > with nonesense admonitions about dharmas when there > > are references to > > similtaneous multiple levels of understnding about > > soemthing. Its a > > great day of celebration. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:. > > > Thank you for setting me straight. I feel much > > better. > > > -Peter > > > > > > > > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > To be a bit more specific Peter, your dharma cop > > > > role assumes most > > > > people are fools. It assumes all people are like > > > > woody allen's satire > > > > / characture of himself as a kid in Annie Hall. > > As > > > > you remember, the > > > > young 10 year old is brought to the psychiatrist > > by > > > > his mother because > > > > Alvie won't do anything other than stare at > > walls. > > > > Alvie explains his > > > > version of existential angst to the shrink, "the > > > > universe is > > > > expannding, which means one day it will explode > > and > > > > that > > > > will be the end of everything." > > > > > > > > Some funny responses: His mother yells, "What > > > > business is it of yours > > > > what the Universe is doing??!!" And the shrink > > > > explains in > > > > condescending tones, "Don't worry Alvie, > > Brooklyn is > > > > not expanding." > > > > > > > > Your fear appears to be that everyone is an > > Alvie, > > > > that they will be > > > > paralyzed into inaction if they dare recognize a > > > > reality that is only > > > > partially, though perhaps not yet eternally > > > > recognized. People, their > > > > associated reactive minds, intellects and > > bodies, > > > > are usually not that > > > > dull as to sink into paralysis when realizing > > > > conceptually, based on > > > > experience -- even if it is not eternal > > experience, > > > > that there is no > > > > doer. Or at a deeper level, there is no action. > > > > > > > > One can learn of how food is assimilated at > > > > chemical, quantum > > > > mechanical or even cosmological levels ("it > > doesn't > > > > amout to a hill of > > > > beans" to quote another film) and yet still the > > body > > > > contines to eat > > > > on the surface level. It is not shocked into > > > > paralysis knowing its > > > > just quantum soup drinking quantum soup. > > > > > > > > So your role playing dharmic high priest, > > telling > > > > people from what and > > > > how they should interpret the world, is ITMBO > > (in > > > > this mind/body's > > > > opinion) more something you are working out > > > > internally, and does not > > > > provide much useful real world guidance for > > others. > > > > > > > > But everyone can and will decide on their own. > > > > Besides, this is just > > > > all quantum soup made from an insignificant hill > > of > > > > beans. > > > > > > > > --- your pal alvie (still crazy, but not > > paralyzed, > > > > after all these > > > > years). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I understand Peter. > > > > > > > > > > As long as you continue to comparmentalize > > > > wholeness into little > > > > > domains, and feel the need to keep tracking > > our > > > > different > > > > > dharmas blazing in your mind, you will > > continue to > > > > feel the need to > > > > > play dharma cop -- and to continue to cite > > people > > > > for your own > > > > > internal vision of dharmic conflicts of the > > One > > > > Eternal Dharma. > > > > > > > > > > Cite away. > > > > > > > > > > As GH said: Beware of darkness. All things > > must > > > > pass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter > > > > Sutphen > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Watch out Akasha, you're going to get a > > dharma > > > > fine! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], > > Peter > > > > Sutphen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I started teaching TM in 1973, > > National > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > sent the correct percentage back and the > > > > correct > > > > > > > > percentage into my ATR account. That > > lasted > > > > for a > > > > > > > few > > > > > > > > years until someone sucked the ATR > > credit > > > > account > > > > > > > dry. > > > > > > > > -Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, for the mind/body aka Peter, there > > was > > > > no > > > > > > > doer of the > > > > > > > initiations, and thus no thief claiming > > > > ownership of > > > > > > > the action, and > > > > > > > thus no thief claiming ownership of the > > ATR > > > > credit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the blazing Brahman mind/body aka MMY, > > was > > > > not a > > > > > > > thief of the action > > > > > > > of canceling all ATR credits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus it appears nature was working on > > nature, > > > > > > > adjusting karmic account > > > > > > > consistent with Eternal Dharma. No thief, > > no > > > > victim, > > > > > > > no foul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So where in the Brahaman is the problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
