--- In [email protected], "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. Critizing governments today is a no-brainer - everyone know's there > is something wrong. > > Still, when democracy is critized, it is done so less for past > services and the ideal it may still be (a terrible system, but the > best seen in Kali yuga), but for how it is practiced. > > I also think there is more embedded in the concept of 'democracy' in > this context; it is a keyword hinting i.a. at some of the roots of the > consciousness found on the British Isles - a trait I personally admire > (having enjoyed several incarnations in the place) but which in the > context of future levels of collective consciousness for the whole > world, may be less relevant. > > The roots of Magna Charta was perhaps not only a yearning for freedom, > but also inability to organize in a civil way except by acknowledging > a 'rule and divide' mentality. > > 2. Given that critizing democracy od today is a no-brainer, the way to > level criticism against 'anti-democracy' is to listen very > attentivelly to what the alternative to 'democracy' would be. > > When this alternative is hinted at it has been done with 'keywords' > like 'self-government'; 'parental role' (give people the tools and > knowledge and stand back and see how they exercize their free will); > and that countries with income taxes above 10% are disfunctional. > > In short, the alternative that emerges is that of a society where > individuals rule themselves to a far higher degree than is the case > today, even in USA. In fact, the vision is so radically anti-big > government that it may be described as the fullfillment of a > libertarian/Republican vision of a 'government' that in effect never > (needs to) interfere in peoples lives - because things just work anyway. > > This conculsion is,. in fact, a no-brainer, too. > > Who would seriously believe that a planet of people in CC, GC, UC, BC > would accept interference of 'governments' in their lives. People who > have experience of how the leadership of the TMO operates vis-a-vis > the governments of the world, cna hardly be under the impression that > what is suggested is anyhting but far more freedom to individuals > than waht is currently experienced. > > One can probably arrive at a similar conclusion by studying > descriptions of how societies worked in more enlightened times than > our own. > > Pew! **** . Critizing governments today is a no-brainer - everyone know's there is something wrong. Still, when democracy is critized, it is done so less for past services and the ideal it may still be (a terrible system, but the best seen in Kali yuga), but for how it is practiced. I also think there is more embedded in the concept of 'democracy' in this context; it is a keyword hinting i.a. at some of the roots of the consciousness found on the British Isles - a trait I personally admire (having enjoyed several incarnations in the place) but which in the context of future levels of collective consciousness for the whole world, may be less relevant. The roots of Magna Charta was perhaps not only a yearning for freedom, but also inability to organize in a civil way except by acknowledging a 'rule and divide' mentality. 2. Given that critizing democracy od today is a no-brainer, the way to level criticism against 'anti-democracy' is to listen very attentivelly to what the alternative to 'democracy' would be. When this alternative is hinted at it has been done with 'keywords' like 'self-government'; 'parental role' (give people the tools and knowledge and stand back and see how they exercize their free will); and that countries with income taxes above 10% are disfunctional. In short, the alternative that emerges is that of a society where individuals rule themselves to a far higher degree than is the case today, even in USA. In fact, the vision is so radically anti-big government that it may be described as the fullfillment of a libertarian/Republican vision of a 'government' that in effect never (needs to) interfere in peoples lives - because things just work anyway. This conculsion is,. in fact, a no-brainer, too. Who would seriously believe that a planet of people in CC, GC, UC, BC would accept interference of 'governments' in their lives. People who have experience of how the leadership of the TMO operates vis-a-vis the governments of the world, cna hardly be under the impression that what is suggested is anyhting but far more freedom to individuals than waht is currently experienced. One can probably arrive at a similar conclusion by studying descriptions of how societies worked in more enlightened times than our own. Pew! Maybe I'm rather dull, but I don't see the claimed issues above as no-brainers. For me these are rather complicated issues. Democracy is not perfect, it is clear to me. But when compared to the past monarchies and totalitarian regimes it is almost perfect. It is much better capable of respecting the individual's human rights. It is possible and even likely that when human beings collectively evolve further a form of governance that is more advanced than democracy will appear. But we are not yet there. Most of humanity is still approaching the level of awareness, which makes democracy possible to function properly. That means a capacity of respecting every individuals freedom of thought. And it means also a capacity to think independently and not being that easily manipulated to group thinking in search for external enemies, when not being capable of containing and owning your own fears and fury. In other words you don't anymore need fundamentalist belief systems to give justification for your harming others. For me TMO doesn't represent a governance beyond democracy, rather beneath. TMO doesn't encourage one's self government: it doesn't even allow freedom of thought. I have been a target of fierce accusations each time I have inside that organization expressed some criticism of it. I have been blamed to be very negative. It is very odd that these people cannot see how negatively they have treated me. They say criticism is harmful to the purity of heart. And still these people are full of criticism and even irrational negativity of many things except TMO. Irmeli To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
