On Apr 6, 2005, at 8:12 PM, Rory Goff wrote:

> Yes, sure -- for some reason, I never thought of linking the two
> concepts together like that. (I instead looked into mantras for 144
> subcategories of the Solar wheel, each covering 2.5 days, and went
> on in that direction, working out various layers of macro-micro
> correlation from the akashic down to the physical.) A new twist
> here! Thanks again!

Really, what it boils down to is breath = time. What happens is, as we 
transcend time, the breath becomes more subtle--even during activity. 
Even when first accomplished, breath can be subtle for days at a time.

Really the subtlety of breath is connected in a very concrete way, to 
the subtlety we are able to experience, both in meditation and 
activity. Traditionally this is linked to the "length" of the breath 
(in and out). At a certain length, gross siddhis occur. Bring it 
shorter, you can fly. The entire relationship of subtlety of breath is 
well known by breath-yogis as to the result.

Ultimately, what must be accomplished, is breath must stop to really 
"get behind reality". It's a death really. Death while living. Then 
jivan-mukti--liberation-while-living is possible. Tom and I were 
talking on this last week and he added the really relevant point is 
that many who achieve liberation or approach it importantly, all have 
died and come back. We agreed that some can do this consciously. But 
death--stopping breath and stopping time--is key.

-V.



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