--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > > Ultimately, what must be accomplished, is breath must stop to really > "get behind reality". It's a death really. Death while living.
Yes, familiar with that death. Not positive it was accompanied at that time by complete stoppage of breath -- it might have been. Complete stoppage is apparently not necessary now for seeing through reality; attention is. Stoppage is also very nice though. Then > jivan-mukti--liberation-while-living is possible. Tom and I were > talking on this last week and he added the really relevant point is > that many who achieve liberation or approach it importantly, all have > died and come back. We agreed that some can do this consciously. But > death--stopping breath and stopping time--is key. Yes, I am not so sure that it is always shorter breaths and stoppage (though that be often the case), so much as subtler and subtler ones -- not necessarily shallower. The onset of peaceful currents of attention, maybe. I am not so quick to completely equate prana with breath at all nowadays -- Pranaflow (in its various forms, including electromagnetic, either within or without this physical body) seems somewhat more to be a function of attention than specifically breath. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
