"For added pleasure, read this post-- Dream Knowledge" to the tune of 'Dream Lover' --- Everly Bros. "
> > On Apr 10, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > Two experiences come to mind. Both happened during "dreams". The first was on a 6-month course. In the dream, I was sitting at the front of the hall and MMY was on the dais. He wanted someone to come up. I looked around and no one was making the move, so I got up and knelt in front of his couch. He placed his thumb on my 3rd eye chakra and rubbed it with a twisting motion. > I awoke from this dream feeling profoundly surcharged with consciousness. > > In another dream while I was teaching in Detroit, MMY appeared to me. We were both standing. He walked up close, looked me in the eyes, and said, "Such a brilliant mind, but so obsessive." I reached out to him as if to say "Help me" and he disappeared. I was very obsessive at that stage of my life. > > There's another one that was much more profound than these, but M wasn't in it. Shiva might have been. I'll tell it later. Going to plant some flowers. > on 4/10/05 10:42 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > I guess I wouldn't have been either had I not > experienced it myself. I have received transmission or initiation at a distance from numerous > > teachers. One, I found out later (from Gurumayi) > occurred at the precise time she did darshan hundreds of miles > away. Strange but true. >tought it was. Peter: I was initiated by MMY during a "dream" on my SCI course before I saw him. A very powerful experience. ========== Its interesting though. MMY has explicitly said he does not come to people in their dreams or meditations. So to believe that one has had such a valid visit, with valid knowledge given, one is then forced to hold that: i) MMY is more believable in dream state than in waking state, (I guess that may make some sense, given the bizarre nature of some of his waking words) ii) MMY dream proclamations are more valid than his waking state proclamations. (This could certainly to an interesting future -- of Heirs to the Knowledge debating each other, dismissing MMY's words and tapes and promoting their dream like versions of what he has said as more valid than others' dreams. Well thinking about it, we sort of have that already here on the list.) Validation in waking, of knowledge thought to be gained during dreaming, is key key As an aside, i do believe one can gain knowledge during certain types of dreams. I think Vaj referred to them as Dreams of Certainty. Traditionally ther are 5-6 types of dreams, and one type is of gaining knowledge and insights into the future. I have had such, though its hard to validate. Some times it feels like the mind and intellect become multi dimensional e.g., 6 dimensional, in such dream states. Then when one wakes the 3-D mind just cant remap the 6-D insights and knowledge to its "smaller" container. (Thus while I hold it is possible to have valid dreams of MMY visitations or any saint, the fact that MMY explicitly states that he does not do so, points towards the conclusion that the above cites are not "Dreams of Certainty". Else some bizzare mind juggling acrobatic justifactions are necessary. While the TMO trained many well in this, it doesn't make them valid.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
