--- In [email protected], "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>We are discussing here (I thought) how a thinking
> process could be going on without the indweller doing that thinking.

Your assumptions appears to be that there is an indweller. There isn't.

If there is an indwelling "controller", "driver", or "doer", then have
it, or ask it to, instantaneously:

- stop all thoughts
- stop all analysis
- stop all questions

If it can't stop these things, its not in control. Its not driving the
train. (There is no Casey Jones).

Its like a mad uncle who is locked in a glass cage, with one way
mirrors, in a symphony hall. The uncle hears symphonic music and is
conducting the symphony with his baton. Very skillyfully, very
emphatically. Only, the madness of it all, the joke, is that the
symphony can't see the uncle, does not even know he is there. The
symphony is playing by itself, on its own. The mad uncle just has
deluded himself into thinking he is the conductor.

The mad uncle then gets tired and stops for a while. He is shocked as
hell that the symphony keeps playing without him. He sits there
stunned, for hours as the symphony plays on flawlessly.

After a while, the mad uncle simple slips into an adjacent warm hot
tub, relaxes totally, and goes "ahhhhhhhhh", merging with the warm
water. The mad uncle gains insight that he is not controlling the
symphony. He realizes that there is nothing to do. He grokes that he
himself is just a figment of his own imagination.

The hot tub just enjoys its own total warmth, comfort and release.

The symphony plays on.









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