--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SNIP > In every single case where someone has claimed to enlightened a la "TM" > their View (their inner POV/cosmology) matched precisely the vague > definitions MMY has given, often slightly embellished with a > sprinkling of Neo-Vedanta or some Byron Katie thrown in--but > none...NONE...give the full View of these states as more generally > described. So far none could demonstrate the ability to perform all the > Siddhis (or one for that matter). SNIP
Fred Travis, a faculty member at MUM, has been studying brainwave correlates of witnessing sleep. I heard part of a talk that he gave on this. He gets volunteers for his studies who claim to be witnessing sleep. Before he accepts them for study, he talks to them for awhile. He said it is fairly easy to tell who is actually having this experience and who maybe thinks they are but they are not. He looks for certain kinds of descriptions in the people's own words (not Maharishi's words) and he looks for information about the experience that is not covered in Maharishi's words. I don't know more specifics than that. Point is, he finds varying degrees of authenticity. It doesn't say anything about permanence, or Brahman or sidhis, but the situation may not be as black and white as Vaj makes it out to be. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
