--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you are doing it correctly, the level of > effort/effortlessness > > > remains consistent, though the subjective > experience manifests > as > > > more or less clear. Which you then associate > with more or less > > > effort. > > > > > > This, then, is confusing to me. > > > > From what you say above, I infer that one can be > doing TM > correctly > > yet if one were to ask me during a checking > procedure whether "it > > was easy" I very well may say "no" because I am > associating > > the "less clear" experience with "more effort"... > > > > I was making the assumption that you ARE in fact > meditating > correctly, i.e. don't mind thoughts, take up the > mantra easily, etc. > and looking for a possible rationale why it wouldn't > as a result > feel effortless, as it should. > > Just remember to not look for, or anticipate any > specific result > during the experience. And if you forget to > entertain the mantra > during the practice, that's ok too; you'll get it > next time around. > > Don't think about it much. Just do it, and it will > take care of > itself. > > There may be a tendency after meditating awhile and > having clear > experiences which last for awhile to become attached > to them. Then > when they go away as we jackhammer away new deeper > levels of stress, > our mediations can get 'noisy' again. And we really > want those > serene meditations back... > > So if you are being checked, and are asked 'was it > easy?', the > checker is just inquiring about the flow of thought, > not the quality > of it. So even if it is noisy in the mind, the > answer if meditating > properly, is yes, it was easy. > > As has been said, 'take it easy, take it as it > comes'.
Nice post. Fine experienctial discrimination and instructions in TM are two very different things. In TM we want someone to have an "effortless" experience of thinking the mantra. Even though there is a very subtle effort to think it. But you can't say this to them, because then they'll make an effort to think the mantra! So we say think the mantra as effortlessly as you think any other thought. Pretty easy stuff if you don't think about it too much. > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
