Here's the ultimate dogmatic answer to your point: who the hell cares? After 32 years of TMing, i'm still quite happy with the results of my beginner's technique (and the several "Advanced" techniques I've been taught).
All this talk of more effort, less effort, non-effort, etc., is a bunchof ego posturing. In the real world, its impossible to have less than zero of a material substance. To the level that I can perceive, TM is ALWAYS effortless. If there's effort involved, its my problem, notthe problem of the "technique" which doesn't really exist. --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TM is like diving; jump and the rest is taken care > > of. It's laws of > > nature operating. Like gravity the result is > > inevitable; you fall into > > transcendence. > > > > More interestingly I find that these simple > > principles are being > > challenged here on FFL by Vaj and others. It is like > > they say; no, > > gravity does not excist ! > > > > With motifs I do not want to speculate. But they > > seem to be operating > > fulltime. > > Lups, you do this all the time. When someone doesn't > agree with your beliefs or understanding you question > their motives or refer to them as a young soul. > Doesn't that strike you as rather arrogant? Vaj and > others are just pointing out that there is a very, > very subtle intent (i.e., effort) in TM. That's all. > They are discriminating within the experience of TM. > You seem to be a fundamentalist who is more concerned > with the purity of your dogma than authentic > experiencing and the growth of understanding and > insight. As if you already have all the answers. > Sorry, but this attitude you have really bugs the > bejesus out of me. Go figure. > -Peter pissy pants > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
