Ron wrote:
I am not enlightened and can not say from direct experience - I can only pass
along what 3 people here say in my path- then again, the honesty of the
situation is unless it is known from direct experience, then it is a belief
system- so you have my beliefs presented.
Bronte writes:
I think that is very humble and honest of you. You seem very determined to
know the ultimate truth and to evolve, and that is admirable.
Ron:
My Guru is ademant and claiming to speak from Being in saying there is no two,
no two, it is only ONE, there only IS, then life flows. A quote from my guru in
speaking to a person while I was there- : "I just tell people the truth, I
never existed nor will I ever."
Bronte:
Yeah, well, gurus say things like that. They were taught it was going to be
that way when they got there, so when they got there, that's how they
experienced it. It's an assumption handed from guru to disciple who becomes the
new guru and tells the same story to the next new seeker. But we don't all
experience Being like that, nor enlightenment. Probably expectation colors the
experience. What we think, we experience.
Ron:
The 3 people here, while not in contact with each other for coaching, have the
same basic thing to say because they are speaking from that same ONE.
Bronte: Or because they've developed the same assumptions culled from the
same guru. In my own experience, I also speak from "that same One" a lot of the
time -- I'm not always in it, but much of the time I am. And the way I
experience it is a Oneness which I am, but also a strong and healthy
individuality, which is an outgrowth of the Oneness, a small part of it, as a
limb is a part of its tree. I would never say, from this state, that "I never
existed nor will I ever." You know the story of the blind men exploring
different aspects of the same elephant in front of them? I think it's a case of
that here.
You can let Being annihilate your personhood if you want it to. It is the
fulfiller of all desires. But I think that's a most unfortunate thing to
desire. It's like God is this parent who built this neat playground (the world)
for his kid (us) to enjoy, and the child comes home (back to Being) from the
playground crying because there were bullies on the playground, and he never
wants to go out there again. The loving dad won't make the kid go back to the
playground. The kid can stay home forever if he wants. But how sad that the
child could not enjoy the gift, that the bullies got the better of him.
A person can reason this out even before they experience it. We can let Being
infuse our personality, directing and inspiring it, and be dynamic people
partaking in this wonderful life, making it better through our thoughts all the
time, or we can let Being eat our personality, leaving only an outer husk, a
body/mind robot, that continues through this world in a zombie-like state until
death takes it. You can pick what kind of child of God you prefer to be: the
one who comes home crying from the playground and never returns, or the one who
goes back and straightens out the game, making it fun again.
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